Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

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orbita
KVRer
28 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:54 am

My use-case is that I have an external instrument (a semi-modular) on a channel and wish to use expert-sleepers silent-way plugin to generate an CV LFO (which is audio data). So I'm planning on putting it into an fx-rack chain that doesn't contribute to the main signal and then would like to redirect it to a different channel so that I can sent it out of my expert sleepers ES3 into my semi-modular.

I'd like to keep the plugin on the same track so I can use clip automation/modulation.

I think I can solve this using an empty audio track to receive the audio from the plugin but i'd prefer not to have a whole track just to redirect the output so I was wondering if there is a max4live device that takes audio input and has a UI for selecting a target external audio channel to send it to?

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Guenon
KVRAF
1506 posts since 17 Jun, 2005

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:07 am

With the recent additions to the Live API, devices like this are starting to appear:

http://maxforlive.com/library/device/45 ... audioroute
http://maxforlive.com/library/device/4673/outist

Check those out and see if they work in this use case :)

pottering
KVRian
649 posts since 14 Dec, 2014

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm

I don't use external synths, but couldn't you just use an External Audio Effect device, without selecting a input, just output?

orbita
KVRer
28 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:59 pm

pottering wrote:I don't use external synths, but couldn't you just use an External Audio Effect device, without selecting a input, just output?
Why didn't I think of that! Works perfectly, thanks!

orbita
KVRer
28 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:59 pm

Guenon wrote:With the recent additions to the Live API, devices like this are starting to appear:

http://maxforlive.com/library/device/45 ... audioroute
http://maxforlive.com/library/device/4673/outist

Check those out and see if they work in this use case :)
The external audio effect does the trick but I shall check these out nevertheless, thanks!

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Tj Shredder
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1560 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:37 pm

Btw, Max4Live is a tool to do it yourself. It takes less time to create such easy things than to search for a readymade device. That is the whole idea about it...

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Guenon
KVRAF
1506 posts since 17 Jun, 2005

Re: Is there a Max4Live device that lets you route audio to another Ext out?

Post Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:33 am

orbita wrote:The external audio effect does the trick but I shall check these out nevertheless, thanks!
Yeah :). These ones have the added benefit of being capable of sending the audio to any internal channel in Live too (also return channels), so you can use them for all kinds of signal injecting duties that would be otherwise more cubersome to make.
Tj Shredder wrote:It takes less time to create such easy things than to search for a readymade device. That is the whole idea about it...
Generally yes -- however on the contrary, in this case creating a device like the above linked ones is still quite an involved process. It's brand new API functionality and building "such easy things" with it has been a bit of a chore even for more experienced Maxers.

Things like this have been using the fresh bpatcher subpatch, like introduced in Live 10's surround panner, like this:

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and parsing that hasn't been exactly straightforward, to get the free routing functionality people have been after. See here: https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=229499

Luckily, there are the readymade devices for this already available now, after some creative experimentation by Max heads :)

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