Do samples kill the *real* electronic music?

[Cubehog]

That´s a review of the neurofunker XG6. And it explains pretty well, of how you can treat samples to make them your own. That´s how D´n´N artists as Noisia, BSE, Phace are doing. They have their habits and style.
If you wanted to imitate them it was a lot of work.
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Modern neurofunker drum and Bass like noisia, black sun Empire, eatbrain, methlab or RAM records style is usually made from Sample, samples of drums as Well as samples od Bass, these samples are additionally effected, cutted, etc. But to find perfect sounding drum and Bass samples is totally difficult, to make your own presets in serum is difficult much more, few hours just with one sound and it still doesnt sound like your want, sound is odften harsh, plastic and digital while your want that analog soundt..so your need to use tons of additionally effected distortions analog simulations to get that modern sound, and your are making sounds and experimentig instead of making music.
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I just picked a sample (the review of a user (juciytriqs), who gave it a 5/5 rating) and put it into new context, giving it an ambigious meaning.

It´s probably these sample packs that make the ordinary non-musician say that computer music can be done by everybody. Technically yes, but ... .

[Krakatau]

Here's my two cents

No

too expensive, I’m afraid ...

[BONES]

well i don't know where you live, but here in east london, it seems like everyone under the age of 25 is walking around with baggy trousers, hanging below the ass, and talking like gangsters.
and i don't just mean blacks, i mean english, romanian, even muslim

And that's taken how long? 30, 40 years? Punk changed things virtually overnight and it's very likely hip hop wouldn't even exist if Punk hadn't laid the groundwork in 1976.

[Tj Shredder]

well i don't know where you live, but here in east london, it seems like everyone under the age of 25 is walking around with baggy trousers, hanging below the ass, and talking like gangsters.
and i don't just mean blacks, i mean english, romanian, even muslim

And that's taken how long? 30, 40 years? Punk changed things virtually overnight and it's very likely hip hop wouldn't even exist if Punk hadn't laid the groundwork in 1976.

And music wouldn't even exist without Pythargoras. And if you keep on going, the only real hero which changed the history is Eve by giving an apple to Adam. We should praise her instead of pointing to styles which only have an influence on our own personal musical listening history. Neither hip-hop nor punk can beat progressive rock music, though my parents insisted on Benny Goodman was more influential...
Sampling made copying just easier than ever, but it had been done since ever...
The kids of Adam & Eve grabbed apples as well, they just taste so good...

[fmr]

And music wouldn't even exist without Pythargoras.

Historically wrong, and absurd.

[BONES]

And music wouldn't even exist without Pythargoras.

Music had been around for centuries, possibly millennia, before Pythagoras.

And if you keep on going, the only real hero which changed the history is Eve by giving an apple to Adam.

That's not history, it's a fairy tale for gullible idiots.

We should praise her instead of pointing to styles which only have an influence on our own personal musical listening history.

This we can sort of agree on, in that hip-hop only changed things for people who are/were into it, whereas Rock'n'Roll and later Punk, even Grunge, changed the entire industry, society even, for everyone.

Neither hip-hop nor punk can beat progressive rock music

Prog had zero impact here in Australia. If you asked 100 Baby Boomers/Gen X to name one Prog Rock band, I doubt you'd get one correct response that wasn't pure guesswork. I'd never heard of Rush until I started hanging out here and I still haven't heard a single song of theirs. Ever.

[Krakatau]

Prog had zero impact here in Australia. If you asked 100 Baby Boomers/Gen X to name one Prog Rock band, I doubt you'd get one correct response that wasn't pure guesswork. I'd never heard of Rush until I started hanging out here and I still haven't heard a single song of theirs. Ever.

Too bad IMO, curious on how it would be received with the appropriate description/presentation...it stays as one of the most elaborate style in pop/rock music and deserves interest just on that respect

[Tj Shredder]

And music wouldn't even exist without Pythargoras.

Historically wrong, and absurd.

As absurd as thinking HipHop changed the world...; - )
Oh, I forgot /S

[fmr]

Prog had zero impact here in Australia. If you asked 100 Baby Boomers/Gen X to name one Prog Rock band, I doubt you'd get one correct response that wasn't pure guesswork. I'd never heard of Rush until I started hanging out here and I still haven't heard a single song of theirs. Ever.

Too bad IMO, curious on how it would be received with the appropriate description/presentation...it stays as one of the most elaborate style in pop/rock music and deserves interest just on that respect

Completely agree, but Prog Rock had bad press almost from day 1. And still has.

[t3toooo]

The term "Progressive Rock" originally belongs to the "Canterbury scene" in Britain.

These musicians played together in numerous bands, with ever-changing and overlapping personnel, creating some similarities in their musical output.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury_scene

The press was right,these were some bad mofo's.

[Robmobius]

That´s a review of the neurofunker XG6.

Hmmm.... Looks like a bit of a rompler, what I'm I missing?

[Krakatau]

That´s a review of the neurofunker XG6.

Hmmm.... Looks like a bit of a rompler, what I'm I missing?

copyright question ?

[Tj Shredder]

The term "Progressive Rock" originally belongs to the "Canterbury scene" in Britain.

These musicians played together in numerous bands, with ever-changing and overlapping personnel, creating some similarities in their musical output.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury_scene

The press was right,these were some bad mofo's.

If you trust the press more than your ears you'll miss the best...

Better trust http://www.progarchives.com
(A proof that the italians had taken over from Canterbury already in the seventies...)

The most important progressive bands had nothing to do with the Canterbury scene. Yes, King Crimson, early Genesis, Premiata Furneria Marconi, Gentle Giant, Emerson, Lake & Palmer...
Certainly musically and compositionally to rate way higher than any HipHop. They are on par with classical music in that regard...

[t3toooo]

If you trust the press more than your ears you'll miss the best...

Better trust http://www.progarchives.com
(A proof that the italians had taken over from Canterbury already in the seventies...)

The most important progressive bands had nothing to do with the Canterbury scene. Yes, King Crimson, early Genesis, Premiata Furneria Marconi, Gentle Giant, Emerson, Lake & Palmer...
Certainly musically and compositionally to rate way higher than any HipHop. They are on par with classical music in that regard...

Lol,i was referring to BONES and fmr,read again.

Whatsoever,Prog Rock wasn't just one place but the roots are in England. psychedelic time,mid 60's and a huge scene in (around) Canterbury (see Soft Machine)
I think everything that differed from a standard form was called "Progressive",sooner or later,so here you go

[BONES]

Too bad IMO, curious on how it would be received with the appropriate description/presentation...it stays as one of the most elaborate style in pop/rock music and deserves interest just on that respect

To me it is indicative of everything that was wrong with music before Punk ripped it all to shreds. I'd listened to bands like Tuxedomoon, King Crimson (who are always just in front of Killing Joke on the shelves) and Hawkwind in import stores, back in the day, and it was all very boring to my ears so I was never even tempted to buy any. But bands like Pink Floyd and Supertramp were as big here as anywhere else, and everyone knew of Rick Wakeman's work, it's just no-one would have known it was a thing called Prog Rock.

I'm always amazed at how popular Prog is around here and how fiercely it is defended (which is a good thing, BTW). To me it seems like such a minor departure from so much other stuff that was around at the time that I was surprised to learn it had it's own genre, in much the same way that I was surprised to learn that Post Punk was an actual genre, something I only learned a few years ago. But it is incredible how empowering that knowledge was to me - it allowed me to discover half-a-dozen bands I hadn't previously knew existed that are now among my favourites, like Opposition and Sad Lovers & Giants.