Saving Logic midi data for use in SX?

[original flipper]

HI

I have called it a day with Logic 5.5 PC and want to salvage (!) some of my compositions for use in my new host SXV3 (when it comes).

My work is nearly all midi info driving vsti's - I have tried exporting the midi info but it seems to save as a long descending file spread over lots of tracks!

Is there any alternative way of saving out the midi-info - or converting my songs to a format SX will be able to use?

Flipper.

[Sascha Franck]

You could try to save each track as a separate MIDI file (select one > export selection as MIDI file).
I'd glue all parts on the tracks, then lengthen all the tracks all the way to the start (= all tracks should have the same length) and add some even on the very beginning first (no matter whether you export all of them together or as single tracks), otherwise the MIDI file will only start at the first MIDI event, which might be middle of the tune.

Yes, it sucks. Logics MIDI file im/export allways sucked ass.

Oh, and make sure to name all the parts properly first... that will make things a lot easier.

[original flipper]

HI

Thanks - you always seem to appear when Logic is mentioned!

I remember the communication around Samplitude we were involved in - I couldn't wait and was offered a good crossgrade on SX - sometimes waiting around means getting more frustrated!

Thanks for the pointers; I have hundereds of songs, although having 'stripped' my vst folder - I imagine many of them will not even load now - this is a problem I have increasingly had with Logic (I know other hosts suffer similar issues when removing plug-ins) I will salvage the ones I hope to progress with!

Its funny - I still have songs in Logic that I 'ripped' from my AMIGA, a few years ago by connecting the Midi-out of the amiga (well its interface as unlike the ST, it didn't have built in midi)to the midi in of my PC - and recorded the files!

Flipper.

[meister eder]

One very important thing:

Before you export, select all your sequences and perform a "Normalize Sequence Parameters"! Though, if you glue the sequences like Sascha proposes, the will be normalized automatically - yet w/o channel.
I'm not sure right now if normalizing includes a "Fix Quantize" (AFAIK it doesn't), so just to be on the save side also perform a "Fix Quantize".

[Sascha Franck]

Before you export, select all your sequences and perform a
"Normalize Sequence Parameters"!
I'm not sure right now if normalizing includes a "Fix Quantize" (AFAIK it doesn't), so just to be on the save side also perform a "Fix Quantize".

I think quantization is applied to exported material automatically (I might be wrong, to lazy to test right now).
But anyways, it's indeed not included in the "normalization" process.

[meister eder]

I think quantization is applied to exported material automatically (I might be wrong, to lazy to test right now).
But anyways, it's indeed not included in the "normalization" process.

I haven't used the MIDI export function for quite a while. Could be that normalization is also included nowadays (lso too lazy to test right now ).

[meister eder]

... (lso ...) ...

Note to self: Nice typo!

(Logic users will get the pun... )

[DevonB]

... (lso ...) ...

Note to self: Nice typo!

(Logic users will get the pun... )

It's almost funny. Glueing all the parts together was the only way I found to get it to work 'better', but hell, I gave up shortly thereafter, and pretty much STILL don't care. It's just songs. Write some new ones.

Devon

[meister eder]

It's almost funny. Glueing all the parts together was the only way I found to get it to work 'better', but hell, I gave up shortly thereafter, and pretty much STILL don't care. It's just songs. Write some new ones.

Yeah, I definitely didn't laugh out loud!

But indeed your tip about writing new songs is a good one! Seriously.

Yet, if you play live and you must play your old songs too just because people want to hear them, then you just might have to manage the data transfer.

[DevonB]

Well, my problem is like all my songs back from Logic 2 and 3 is all MIDI data that triggered external hardware that I sold long ago. Not to mention, the longer you write, in general, the better the songs you write too. I've lost hundred and hundreds of songs, literally due to 'upgrading'. Oh well.

But too true if you play live. I don't. I don't want the hassle, the smoke, the extreme volume levels, the beer spilling on my equipment, blah blah blah!

Devon

[original flipper]

HI

Cheers!

If one of my salvaged 'Saved' song's happerns to give me a pay day I hope you eat your words Devon!

Flipper.

[DevonB]

HI

Cheers!

If one of my salvaged 'Saved' song's happerns to give me a pay day I hope you eat your words Devon!

Flipper.

We a lil grumpy today? If you're not selling off the Logic dongle, you still HAVE your songs to work with, no? Sascha already did give you the answer though of glue all your parts together, THEN save it out. Works much better that way. Then get it into SX, and clip away again. PITA, but you'll still have your MIDI data intact. Beyond that, you're pretty much stuck.

Devon