Roland Cloud

[Echoes in the Attic]

You’re probably right. It’s just annoying to have yet another service having to be ran on startup, which is the Roland cloud background program. With you there like elicenser and ilok you can start to bloat your computer with these things.

Are you on Windows? I don't know what the status is on Windows, but on the Mac at least, the Roland Cloud service thing is only basically for checking updates and managing installations - it doesn't need to be running to use the plugins. I only ever run it manually when new stuff has been released, in order to add the new plugin/s, and then quit it afterwards. The plugins themselves do the connection to the auth servers and manage the response, there are no other services running as far as I can see.

What is a bit annoying is that fairly regularly, you open a Roland plugin, and it's de-authorised, so you have to dig out your password again and re-authorise. For people that use secure passwords as a matter of course, it means going to your password manager, logging on, finding the Roland one, copying that, then going back and copying the password back to the plugin. When you use a fair few Roland plugins regularly, it's a bit of a pain. They could just as easily store your password, or an access token derived from it, and authenticate for you in the background when they needed to and there was an internet connection, thus avoiding the need to prompt. Then only if the authorisation failed should they display the login prompt...

Yes on windows. Actually I just realized there is setting to not turn it on at startup, as well as automatic update checks and notifications, which is good. But yeah having to retrieve a serial number constantly would drive me crazy. That is definitely punishing paying customers.

[SLiC]

Also on Windows and Cloud, I have never had a de-authorised plug that I needed to re-authorise (3 months or so)

[Aguila]

Few question regarding 909

In Manual it says 909 should have Tune option for BassDrum when hitting Panel button (like 808 has). But there is no additional Tune option just Gain and Pan.

Is there a way to Tune BassDrum lower?

Moreover is there a way to tune CH and OH? I am comparing plugin to my 909 and while everything seem to be spot on just cleaner - cymbals are tuned higher on plugin. I actually suspect my 909 has lower tuning due aging but i like it better. Therefore asking is there tune for cymbals?

If not is there some sort of plugin which could tune these instruments lower?

Regarding the Bass Drum/tuning, I asked about it and Roland still hasn’t responded.

I’m wondering what revision Roland based this TR-909 on since the hi-hats seem to be higher pitched than most of them. Typically later models had them higher (but that doesn’t explain the low kick pitch—later models had them around G rather than Ab)

Either way, I hope we can change the pitch soon cause otherwise, it’s amazing how this plugin sounds!!!

[sinemotor]

Maybe I don't understand what you're asking but there is a tune knob for the Bassdrum, Snare, Toms, Crash, Ride.
What's interesting also, is that the tone of the Kick changes with the level. I spent some time sampling the drums out of this plugin (I prefer using audio clips instead of MIDI for drums) and you can get multiple tone variations for each kick for instance. It's a great emulation and the GUI is well done this time!

[Aguila]

Maybe I don't understand what you're asking but there is a tune knob for the Bassdrum, Snare, Toms, Crash, Ride.
What's interesting also, is that the tone of the Kick changes with the level. I spent some time sampling the drums out of this plugin (I prefer using audio clips instead of MIDI for drums) and you can get multiple tone variations for each kick for instance. It's a great emulation and the GUI is well done this time!

I think what we're referring too is an "under the hood" tuning feature. For example, the earliest version of the 909 had a kick that's tuning ranged from A/Ab to B. Later revisions had it's tuning range improved; able to reach the note of G. With the plugin, it emulates the first version, thus the kick drum's range being as explained above. We're not looking for the tone variations persay—just having the feature to change the literal pitch—independent of the instrument's respective primary tune. It's the same with the hi-hats; different models of 909s had their hi-hats pitched differently. The VST's hi-hats are rather high pitched compared to most 909s.

All-in-all, it'd be a nice feature to have to be able to screw around with the pitch of the 909 or just to be able to emulate your own 909 (if wanted). After all, every 909 is unique

[kmonkey]

Maybe I don't understand what you're asking but there is a tune knob for the Bassdrum, Snare, Toms, Crash, Ride.

I think you don't understand fully what are we talking about because i was not clear in the start but i posted this info one page earlier

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=475542&start=930#p7049652

For example Aira line have that additional tuning. So i am speaking about global instrument pitch. You'll see when you read my previous post. there are hardware mod links and sound samples.

Edit: and yes Roland emulation is stunning. Imo far better then Drumazon. But Cymbals (hh and oh) are wicked and unlike original hardware. As one user already pointed out in plugin they are pitched higher.

But again - Roland 909 VSTi is damn good. Finally 909 clap done properly.

[electro]

5.2 cloud software update turns Roland TR-8S into surface controller. Good thinking.

[Shiek927]

Playing around with the 1993 Anthology series and my gosh, I'm in love! even more-so then the JV1080, the JD really is the king of PCM Roland synths. It's got THAT humongous punchy character that isn't found anywhere else. Can't wait for the full module to be released .

[rod_zero]

The Roland CLoud manager causes latency in online games, I wrote to support and they recommended turning it off.

[Caine123]

The Roland CLoud manager causes latency in online games, I wrote to support and they recommended turning it off.

well, cant they work on it?

[beely]

The Roland CLoud manager causes latency in online games, I wrote to support and they recommended turning it off.

Why would you require a tool to update and install your Roland plugins running while you are playing games?

Run it manually when you want to update, then quit it when done.

[electro]

You need a live internet connection to launch cloud plugins?

[beely]

You need a live internet connection to launch cloud plugins?

Not to launch them, only to periodically authorise them.

[Echoes in the Attic]

You need a live internet connection to launch cloud plugins?

Not to launch them, only to periodically authorise them.

So if you keep the cloud manager offline by default, would you get a warning when you need to authorize them again? I mean what if you are playing a show or something and then suddenly they stop working because you forgot to turn it on while online. Could this happen?

[beely]

So if you keep the cloud manager offline by default, would you get a warning when you need to authorize them again? I mean what if you are playing a show or something and then suddenly they stop working because you forgot to turn it on while online. Could this happen?

The Cloud Manager software is *only* concerned with installing/updating. It has nothing to do with authorisation at all. You only run it when you want to check whether there are new versions of plugins available, or want to install/remove a plugin from your system.

Once the plugins are loaded in a session, they will stay authorised. There is only a periodic online auth check (approx weekly) when loading a plugin (or loading a project, which will load any used plugins of course) and the authorisation has expired.

So if you are worried, the day before your gig, open a Roland plugin, and perform an authorisation procedure (basically, select it from the plugin's Option menu and just type in your password) and the auth check will be done, and now you know you won't be expected to auth again for at least a week, whether you're online or not...