POLL: How much have you spent on DAW(s) / upgrades in your life?
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- KVRian
- 547 posts since 7 Mar, 2011
I'm curious as to how much others have spent on DAW(s) and various upgrades over the years.
Just DAW. No plugins.
Logic Pro X ($199)
Reason 8.3 ($657) 399 + 2 upgrades @129
Reaper 4.78 ($40) They offered a $40 discount licence near the end of Reaper 3
$896
Just DAW. No plugins.
Logic Pro X ($199)
Reason 8.3 ($657) 399 + 2 upgrades @129
Reaper 4.78 ($40) They offered a $40 discount licence near the end of Reaper 3
$896
- KVRist
- 189 posts since 3 Jun, 2005 from Cydonia on the 4th Planet
I have to be over $2000. I've updated Sonar several times since version 4. I've updated Live every time there was a new version since version 5. I've updated Reason every time from version 3 to 8. I've updated Cubase every time since version 8. That's gotta be over $2000.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 547 posts since 7 Mar, 2011
Well over $2000?
Like over 3?
Maybe I should add another option...
Like over 3?
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- KVRAF
- 35691 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
200 - 499, I think. Got Studio one 3 Pro for relatively little money, and I bought Cubase Artist used, for 130 € ,I think. Before that, I bought Cubase Elements, as an upgrade from Cubase LE. So, all in all, I think, about 350-400 €. Oh, and I also bought the Cubase Artist 8.5 to 9 upgrade, for 50 €. So, ya, about 400 € then.
Not to mention Wavelab Elements and upgrades.
Not to mention Wavelab Elements and upgrades.
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- KVRAF
- 3497 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
On daws themselves...between Reason 1 & 7 ? Not counting any Rack Extensions, probably between £800 - £850 mark.
Studio One 2 Professional £130 + Upgrade to SO3 3.0 Professional... £110, not counting any additional VST's.
With 3D software however...it's well over £3000...with owning Maxon's Cinema 4D, not counting other 3D software such as Pixologics ZBrush and Photoshop CS6, & CS2 Production Suite (Student version).
And I hate to think what I've spent on 3D and music production magazines over past years.
Then there is the external synthesizer keyboards and audio interfaces....PC desktop computers, monitors ect.. and laptop I bought 10 years ago.... and if I go back even further...my Amiga computers 500 / 1200 that I used in the 1990's for the same thing...
So yeah..lots of money, but always with careful considered use of it....
Studio One 2 Professional £130 + Upgrade to SO3 3.0 Professional... £110, not counting any additional VST's.
With 3D software however...it's well over £3000...with owning Maxon's Cinema 4D, not counting other 3D software such as Pixologics ZBrush and Photoshop CS6, & CS2 Production Suite (Student version).
And I hate to think what I've spent on 3D and music production magazines over past years.
Then there is the external synthesizer keyboards and audio interfaces....PC desktop computers, monitors ect.. and laptop I bought 10 years ago.... and if I go back even further...my Amiga computers 500 / 1200 that I used in the 1990's for the same thing...
So yeah..lots of money, but always with careful considered use of it....
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- KVRAF
- 4085 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Ableton Live 7, 400
Ableton Live 8 update, 150
Ableton Live 9 update and upgrate to Suite, 200
Ableton 10 suite update, 200
950 in 11 years, not bad at all.
Ableton Live 8 update, 150
Ableton Live 9 update and upgrate to Suite, 200
Ableton 10 suite update, 200
950 in 11 years, not bad at all.
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- KVRian
- 1356 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California
Well, shoot, I think I underestimated mine. I forgot about Ableton Suite which was about $1K. I keep trying new things and always end up back with ProTools.
- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
Way too much money (I voted on the high end), and mostly a waste.
The only money spent that wasn't a waste, because of my ability to get things done with it, were my purchases of Logic.
My Cakewalk purchases were a pile of foolish and repetitious acts on my part; upgrade after upgrade, waiting for bugs to be fixed and design to improve. I probably bought over seven versions of it before I finally wised up that it wasn't going to ever be right.
Plus Cakewalk Project 7. I bought both versions of this abandoned product, which never quite felt like I had any reason to use it... and apparently Cakewalk felt the same about it. They dumped its plugins into the next Sonar upgrade as a cheapass lure, and abandoned all those components a few versions later, as has been Cakewalk's habit.
Plus three Cakewalk synthesizer products on the side, and three books about Cakewalk products. I'm tossing those in with all my Cakewalk purchases because it's all mostly a waste. I do credit Cakewalk for being my first real foray into serious music creation (starting with a free version of Cakewalk Apprentice with a Sound Blaster, then Cakewalk Pro Audio, and finally Sonar). On the PC, for cheap, Cakewalk was the best choice for a while.
Reason was fun. I paid for at least four versions over the years, but I've stopped giving Propellerhead money until they address the tiny graphics (if they flatten the rack gear in whatever redesign they eventually release, I'll never give them money again). I also bought a book (Reason Power Tools) and a Computer Music special issue for it.
Cubase (4.0-4.5) was a total waste of money due to being unstable on Mac OS, not liking the menu layout & configuration, and being ultimately disinterested in having multiple dongle drivers & services running on my system.
I never got to comprehend Live (yet I bought version 6 AND 7 anyway). I was annoyed at having to beg for more activations when I was finding myself repeatedly rebuilding my PC. I eventually stabilized on a Mac but had by then lost interest in figuring out the preferred workflow of Live, the version I had didn't support the current OS (they went from 6 to 7 to 8 and to 9 within a very short span of time, making me feel like it was going to be another Cakewalk experience... and then they kept updating version 9 for years; I totally bought in at the wrong goddamned time). Also, the activation annoyance left a bad taste in my mouth for Ableton customer treatment.
FL Studio (bought the lifetime edition) seems to not be my thing (though it cost less than almost anything else I bought, DAW wise, especially considering the free upgrades).
Tracktion (two versions) was useful for VST testing on my PC, but I don't use VST anymore and don't use Tracktion for anything anymore (also inexpensive, so that's okay).
Does Renoise count as a DAW? I had lost interest in trackers at this point, but it was seemingly something I had to own just because trackers were where I got my start. I only bought one version. Their unwillingness to even talk about the transport latency that multiple instances of Redux causes in Logic has kept me from wanting to give them anymore money.
Then there was the version of Master Tracks Pro that was part of my Turtle Beach Pinnacle Project Studio sound card purchase (in 1996?). It was my first ever "full-duplex" audio recording AND playback experience on a computer (the first multitrack MIDI/audio DAW I used). I'll count this because it was my first DAW and the sound card was the path to having a DAW. This was mostly a waste, since the patch editor was only ever released as a beta, long after the product was discontinued (the card was marketed as a professional sampler/synthesizer like Creative's AWE32).
The only money spent that wasn't a waste, because of my ability to get things done with it, were my purchases of Logic.
My Cakewalk purchases were a pile of foolish and repetitious acts on my part; upgrade after upgrade, waiting for bugs to be fixed and design to improve. I probably bought over seven versions of it before I finally wised up that it wasn't going to ever be right.
Plus Cakewalk Project 7. I bought both versions of this abandoned product, which never quite felt like I had any reason to use it... and apparently Cakewalk felt the same about it. They dumped its plugins into the next Sonar upgrade as a cheapass lure, and abandoned all those components a few versions later, as has been Cakewalk's habit.
Plus three Cakewalk synthesizer products on the side, and three books about Cakewalk products. I'm tossing those in with all my Cakewalk purchases because it's all mostly a waste. I do credit Cakewalk for being my first real foray into serious music creation (starting with a free version of Cakewalk Apprentice with a Sound Blaster, then Cakewalk Pro Audio, and finally Sonar). On the PC, for cheap, Cakewalk was the best choice for a while.
Reason was fun. I paid for at least four versions over the years, but I've stopped giving Propellerhead money until they address the tiny graphics (if they flatten the rack gear in whatever redesign they eventually release, I'll never give them money again). I also bought a book (Reason Power Tools) and a Computer Music special issue for it.
Cubase (4.0-4.5) was a total waste of money due to being unstable on Mac OS, not liking the menu layout & configuration, and being ultimately disinterested in having multiple dongle drivers & services running on my system.
I never got to comprehend Live (yet I bought version 6 AND 7 anyway). I was annoyed at having to beg for more activations when I was finding myself repeatedly rebuilding my PC. I eventually stabilized on a Mac but had by then lost interest in figuring out the preferred workflow of Live, the version I had didn't support the current OS (they went from 6 to 7 to 8 and to 9 within a very short span of time, making me feel like it was going to be another Cakewalk experience... and then they kept updating version 9 for years; I totally bought in at the wrong goddamned time). Also, the activation annoyance left a bad taste in my mouth for Ableton customer treatment.
FL Studio (bought the lifetime edition) seems to not be my thing (though it cost less than almost anything else I bought, DAW wise, especially considering the free upgrades).
Tracktion (two versions) was useful for VST testing on my PC, but I don't use VST anymore and don't use Tracktion for anything anymore (also inexpensive, so that's okay).
Does Renoise count as a DAW? I had lost interest in trackers at this point, but it was seemingly something I had to own just because trackers were where I got my start. I only bought one version. Their unwillingness to even talk about the transport latency that multiple instances of Redux causes in Logic has kept me from wanting to give them anymore money.
Then there was the version of Master Tracks Pro that was part of my Turtle Beach Pinnacle Project Studio sound card purchase (in 1996?). It was my first ever "full-duplex" audio recording AND playback experience on a computer (the first multitrack MIDI/audio DAW I used). I'll count this because it was my first DAW and the sound card was the path to having a DAW. This was mostly a waste, since the patch editor was only ever released as a beta, long after the product was discontinued (the card was marketed as a professional sampler/synthesizer like Creative's AWE32).
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- KVRian
- 676 posts since 3 May, 2004
Jace-BeOS wrote:Way too much money (I voted on the high end), and mostly a waste.
The only money spent that wasn't a waste, because of my ability to get things done with it, were my purchases of Logic.
My Cakewalk purchases were a pile of foolish and repetitious acts on my part; upgrade after upgrade, waiting for bugs to be fixed and design to improve. I probably bought over seven versions of it before I finally wised up that it wasn't going to ever be right.
Plus Cakewalk Project 7. I bought both versions of this abandoned product, which never quite felt like I had any reason to use it... and apparently Cakewalk felt the same about it. They dumped its plugins into the next Sonar upgrade as a cheapass lure, and abandoned all those components a few versions later, as has been Cakewalk's habit.
Plus three Cakewalk synthesizer products on the side, and three books about Cakewalk products. I'm tossing those in with all my Cakewalk purchases because it's all mostly a waste. I do credit Cakewalk for being my first real foray into serious music creation (starting with a free version of Cakewalk Apprentice with a Sound Blaster, then Cakewalk Pro Audio, and finally Sonar). On the PC, for cheap, Cakewalk was the best choice for a while.
Reason was fun. I paid for at least four versions over the years, but I've stopped giving Propellerhead money until they address the tiny graphics (if they flatten the rack gear in whatever redesign they eventually release, I'll never give them money again). I also bought a book (Reason Power Tools) and a Computer Music special issue for it.
Cubase (4.0-4.5) was a total waste of money due to being unstable on Mac OS, not liking the menu layout & configuration, and being ultimately disinterested in having multiple dongle drivers & services running on my system.
I never got to comprehend Live (yet I bought version 6 AND 7 anyway). I was annoyed at having to beg for more activations when I was finding myself repeatedly rebuilding my PC. I eventually stabilized on a Mac but had by then lost interest in figuring out the preferred workflow of Live, the version I had didn't support the current OS (they went from 6 to 7 to 8 and to 9 within a very short span of time, making me feel like it was going to be another Cakewalk experience... and then they kept updating version 9 for years; I totally bought in at the wrong goddamned time). Also, the activation annoyance left a bad taste in my mouth for Ableton customer treatment.
FL Studio (bought the lifetime edition) seems to not be my thing (though it cost less than almost anything else I bought, DAW wise, especially considering the free upgrades).
Tracktion (two versions) was useful for VST testing on my PC, but I don't use VST anymore and don't use Tracktion for anything anymore (also inexpensive, so that's okay).
Does Renoise count as a DAW? I had lost interest in trackers at this point, but it was seemingly something I had to own just because trackers were where I got my start. I only bought one version. Their unwillingness to even talk about the transport latency that multiple instances of Redux causes in Logic has kept me from wanting to give them anymore money.
Then there was the version of Master Tracks Pro that was part of my Turtle Beach Pinnacle Project Studio sound card purchase (in 1996?). It was my first ever "full-duplex" audio recording AND playback experience on a computer (the first multitrack MIDI/audio DAW I used). I'll count this because it was my first DAW and the sound card was the path to having a DAW. This was mostly a waste, since the patch editor was only ever released as a beta, long after the product was discontinued (the card was marketed as a professional sampler/synthesizer like Creative's AWE32).
Sorry but i have to ask:
Did you buy BeOS too??????????