IK MUltimedia UNO Synth

[MrWildBunnycat]

So please, fill me on all the other $199 synths that come close to 2 x variable shape VCOs + multimode filter with drive + 2 full envelopes (yes, yes - via editor/midi cc - but they're still there) +7 shape LFO (inc waveshape mod/pwm) + arp + sequencer + delay.

That's a stupid way to look at it. I could get any number of better synths second hand for $200 and I think that a Korg Monologue or Waldorf Rocket both offer way better value for money and I bet they sound better, too.

[... synths that aren't even analog - used synths? Seems we have very different definitions of "similar".

Who cares if it is analogue or not? What should matter is whether or not it sounds good. The Rocket, for example, sounds at least as good as any true analogue synth I have ever owned or used and I'll guarantee it sounds way better than this thing.

I look at the spec for the range of sounds I can get out of the thing - and I look at price to determine the value of what it offers. The UNO offers an unusually wide range of sound design options at this price. You too are not comparing apples to apples on price and spec - just dismissing a reasonable request and throwing in your subjective opinion on what's "better".

I brought analog into it for the context of comparison as that is clearly a selling point and it was part of the request for comparison.

I care if it's analog in as much as I care what it sounds like - and I generally prefer the sound of real analog to VA. I don't expect someone who goes to the trouble of highlighting "anal" in "analogue" to share or even respect that opinion, but that reflects on you.

WHERE is the unusually wide range of sounds you can get out of the thing?! Did we not listen to the same demos? Nobody is throwing a "this is better" opinion - YOU'RE the one who asked to bring up other synthesizers and then immediately argue the strawman.

So analogue is a selling point to you, but "bass synth" is not because it's just convenient for your argument. Nice.

You've bought so far into this you don't even see the flaws in your own arguments.

[Robmobius]

Well, staying on topic then (apologies Hink).

Has anyone actually got one of these on the forum? And if so, what the build quality like?

[aMUSEd]

Looks interesting to me, can the software editor store additional patches and act as a preset librarian?

[OneOfManyPauls]

WHERE is the unusually wide range of sounds you can get out of the thing?! Did we not listen to the same demos?

First off, for the avoidance of strawman arguments, you've missed off a pretty important part of what I said before you attacked it: "The UNO offers an unusually wide range of sound design options at this price."

I can read a spec sheet, so I know what sort of sounds I can get out of this without having to have someone post it in a youtube video.

So the things that got my attention are LFO modulatable VCO waveshapes, independent ADSR envelopes - so variable sustain rather than just sustain on and off, multimode filter, and LFO with S&H and both up and down ramps.

That's a wide palette of sounds right there - so I'm happy to stand my comment that it's an unusually wide range of sound design options at this price-point. Unless you want to point me to all the other synths at this price that offer the same (or close) - which we've established you don't.

Nobody is throwing a "this is better" opinion - YOU'RE the one who asked to bring up other synthesizers and then immediately argue the strawman.

Odd - the text you quoted from BONES includes the word "better" three times in one sentence. Bringing up the spec of other synthesizers seems pretty ordinary to provide context - especially in response to complaints about lack of features that aren't on other synths in this price bracket.

So analogue is a selling point to you, but "bass synth" is not because it's just convenient for your argument. Nice.

I'm not sure what you mean here - all I can think is that you can't grasp the difference between IKM using "true analog synthesizer" as a key phrase to market and promote it, and "bass synth" just being some text in a page explaining its sound palette extends beyond that.

You've bought so far into this you don't even see the flaws in your own arguments.

From what I've seen, it seems like a great little synth for the money. Will I buy one? probably not - I've got this area well and truly covered with better specced (but more expensive) synths.

That said, I've got jam points which would make it £155, so never say never.

[SLiC]

Frankly it would be rude not to buy one for £155
I had the basis covered also, but not in the garden ...well other than the Novation Circuit and OP-1, but who's counting!

[chk071]

I didn't quite get the thing about the batteries, BTW. AA batteries are bog standard, and, of course there's AA accumulators as well.

[OneOfManyPauls]

I didn't quite get the thing about the batteries, BTW. AA batteries are bog standard, and, of course there's AA accumulators as well.

plus you can get a high capacity external usb power pack cheaply.

[SLiC]

Rechargeable AA's will probably last quite a while....

[Scotty]

The sound demos that are online and the youtube videos show a lot of what this synth can do.
That one sequence that Enrico plays at Superbooth that morphs into Kick, Snare and Tom sounds using the parameter sequencing features shows a lot right there.

Things I'd like to know or hear:

I would like to hear some higher pitched tones sequenced with and without delay and distortion. I think I have a good appreciation of what it can do in the low and mid range and I am impressed.

MIDI Spec: It would be great to see a listing of all of the parameters that can be locked into each step and/or externally controlled via midi. Does this include distortion and delay parameters? If so which ones?

I'd like to hear a sequence that with gradual swing applied from 0 to max.

What information is output on the MIDI OUT?

I'd like to see someone program a 16 step preset from scratch just to understand the input process.

What does the metronome sound like?

[bungle]

Frankly it would be rude not to buy one for £155
I had the basis covered also, but not in the garden ...well other than the Novation Circuit and OP-1, but who's counting!

And where exactly are they £155 ?
They are £243 on the IK website, which is £66 more than $199 Americans are paying, and that is even after paying all the taxes.

This thing is neither cheap or has "A wide range of sounds for the price"

Lets see if "They" can have me banned from this thread too like "They" have from every IK Uno thread at GS, and all i did was point out their disgraceful exchange rate policy for a company that proclaims to be in Europe, proclaims to design in Europe, Proclaims to build in Europe, but sells vastly cheaper to America (again after taxes, this is not a tax discussion, we pay them, done and done, but huge price difference after we pay taxes, erm no)

[fluffy_little_something]

Here it is 244 euros incl. VAT.

The price should be clearly lower in pounds.

I also like the companies that internally compensate for VAT so that in the end Americans and Europeans pay the same regardless of their currencies and VAT rules.

Exporting a physical product to the US should actually cause an additional cost I suppose. Not only due to shipping, but also duty fees.

[SLiC]

Frankly it would be rude not to buy one for £155
I had the basis covered also, but not in the garden ...well other than the Novation Circuit and OP-1, but who's counting!

And where exactly are they £155 ?
They are £243 on the IK website, which is £66 more than $199 Americans are paying, and that is even after paying all the taxes.

This thing is neither cheap or has "A wide range of sounds for the price"

Lets see if "They" can have me banned from this thread too like "They" have from every IK Uno thread at GS, and all i did was point out their disgraceful exchange rate policy for a company that proclaims to be in Europe, proclaims to design in Europe, Proclaims to build in Europe, but sells vastly cheaper to America (again after taxes, this is not a tax discussion, we pay them, done and done, but huge price difference after we pay taxes, erm no)

Perhaps if you read the posts before commenting?

The person before my post had the in basket cost of 155 pounds as he had jam points discounted....I had the same desl (I paid 165). Some people think it’s cheap for an analog synth with delay effect an£ a sequencer with 20 P locks per step....but as with everything it won’t be for everyone.

[fluffy_little_something]

I don't like it when sites automatically pick my price due to my IP address. One should be able to check the prices on other continents as well. Buying from the wrong continent is not possible, anyway.

[SLiC]

I’m sure you be able to buy the product discounted and in dollars from the usual US stores and play the Import duty lottery

[OneOfManyPauls]

They are £243 on the IK website, which is £66 more than $199 Americans are paying, and that is even after paying all the taxes.

It takes all of a google search to show UK music retailers (GAK/G4M) are taking pre-orders at £210.

This thing is neither cheap or has "A wide range of sounds for the price"

Just saying it don't make it so. If you can't get a wide range of sounds out of something with this spec, then there's something wrong.

Maybe you'll be the one to actually list synths that are comparable in terms of spec and price to show how this isn't "a wide range of sounds for the price".