KVR Audio

griels · Post by **griels** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:24 am

WilliamK wrote:
René wrote:Can wusikstation load wave samples? I'll be pleased to accept a face-to-face challenge, with a third-party referee to check the validity of the test results if so. -René
You should really think about this and wonder a bit, your attitude was not nice at all...

Wk

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but please don't take it personally Will. Rene's algorithms are a labour of love, and he will emphatically correct any disinformation about them. If he has been a little aggressive with you, it is only because he is defending years of work. At least, that's how I interpret his words...

René · Post by **René** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:25 am

Rene, sorry to say, but I think you have a serious problem. I was being nice, just asking what went wrong there. And you come with a very arrogant reply...

WilliamK, you're the first person to upset me this year. Congratulations.

LOL this is so funny. You made a test to show the world how good your interpolation was, and how better it was compared to sfz's. Then you realize you made a huge blunder, and you remove it.

And that's not all: you pretend that 'I was being nice, just asking what went wrong?'. Please don't insult my intelligence.

I'll say it again: a guy who want to be nice with me, please stop talking shit about my products. I asked you to remain within ethic limits, and you just didn't hear. I never ever asked you for a review of sfz.

I don't know whay you did that about sfz, I never talked about a product of yours privately or publicly.

I just find pathetic to say that 'sfz sounds filtered', and that the graphics are 'so fancy that makes you upset', just because you don't f**king understand the graphics at all or because you just can't get good results yourself.

Man, I never saw so much arrogance, too bad users don't see that too...

I never said I'm not an arrogant person. Never ever. Perhaps I am, and perhaps it's a faulty part.

However, I don't apply my arrogance to everyone. I reserve it to the people who talk shit about my products while living in complete ignorance, and I add a bonus percentage when it is another developer who does it. It's just a healthy excersize of my rights.

Don't worry about what other users see, it's the second time you seem to need some 'company' on your endeavours.

Perhaps it's just that you're that genius you mentioned and I'm not seeing it, remaining in the completely mistaken idea that you're a complete asshole. Hopefully I'll see the light some day.

Sorry everyone about the rant, but sometimes you have to talk white and black.

-René

WilliamK · Post by **WilliamK** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:30 am

TheWall · Post by **TheWall** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:35 am

It seems pretty clear to me that William is seeing this as a chat room with buddies whilst other developers don't think so.

Maybe you guys should discuss in a more private way...

schlsdwow · Post by **schlsdwow** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:37 am

this very thread has been pitched much too far and is starting to alias like a raped pig

WilliamK · Post by **WilliamK** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:42 am

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:48 am

schlsdwow wrote:this very thread has been pitched much too far and is starting to alias like a raped pig

But can you hear it in a complete mix?

-bManic

René · Post by **René** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:59 am

I don't know why Rene had the idea I was trying to dish SFZ. Actually, I was using it as an example on how to make my own stuff sound good.

It might be my paranoia, but you posted this earlier today:

But I find one thing a bit odd, is that SFZ sounds "filtered". Indeed. It takes care of aliasing. But I wonder, won't that also remove frequencies we "want" I guess I have to do a test and prove that.

That sounds like propaganda to me. Then you did the test, right? Too bad it failed...

BUT, do you still think that those graphics are being fair to all programers. If Rene got all that upset when he though that I said SFZ had problems, imagine what others could think about theyre own programs?

There's nothing bad in spotting problems in sfz. If you take a look at 'The sfz thread', you'll see there 29842938492 problems spotted, most of them fixed by now. Those were REAL problems.

What I mean as REAL problems are problems that everyone can reproduce, and not problems generated by a faulty test of a developer of the competition.

-René

WilliamK · Post by **WilliamK** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:02 am

no_barcode · Post by **no_barcode** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:09 am

This thread wins my newly designed award!

intel · Post by **intel** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:52 am

I'm trying to decide if I've learned anything from reading this thread.

yes I learned that... no wait... oh.. yeah, that's it... oh no. ok.... but tha.. oh. huh... ok, so that's wha... ah. I got it. no wait....

george · Post by **george** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:14 am

WilliamK wrote:Tracktion for example, was updated, and doesn't sound like that graphic anymore, so please, George, remove it until you can test the new version.

It's removed now. I have also put the results for current Wusikstation version.

WilliamK · Post by **WilliamK** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:16 am

george · Post by **george** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:18 am

WilliamK wrote:So I ask you to remove NOW Wusikstation tests. I told you that I was updating it. And I DID today. Already testing with users. and you said you would wait.......

Yes, however since your discussion with Rene I felt like making the analisys right now, just to put things on perspective.

The aliasing thread