Bye bye VST2

[poleda]

I'm embracing the reality in which there are still more hosts which support VST2 than VST3. "Out the door" doesn't mean it stops working and that it's automatically bad.

All I can suggest is being prepared for the future and that letting go of the past is sometimes a good thing.

[EvilDragon]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

[poleda]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

[wagtunes]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

Except what are the benefits of VST 3 over VST 2? As a Cubase user, I use both and to me, I see no difference.

So please enlighten me as to why VST 3 is so much better.

[EvilDragon]

The future first needs to arrive. It didn't arrive yet. Only IF all the hosts start dropping VST2 support, will that future have arrived.

There are very few functional benefits in VST3 over VST2. VST2 still works great, and will continue to do so as long as there are hosts which support it (which will still be the case for YEARS to come). That's all there's to it.

[poleda]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

Except what are the benefits of VST 3 over VST 2? As a Cubase user, I use both and to me, I see no difference.

So please enlighten me as to why VST 3 is so much better.

One will still be supported and updated as technologies advance, the other will sit stagnant.

[poleda]

The future first needs to arrive. It didn't arrive yet. Only IF all the hosts start dropping VST2 support, will that future have arrived.

There are very few functional benefits in VST3 over VST2. VST2 still works great, and will continue to do so as long as there are hosts which support it (which will still be the case for YEARS to come). That's all there's to it.

VST3 has been out and adopted by most, if not all major players in the plugin industry. That's pretty much the sign that the future has arrived, and the fact that VST2 is heading out the door is probably a good indication.

[rasmusklump]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

Do you mean such big players like N.I. or Universal Audio ?

[EvilDragon]

VST3 has been out and adopted by most, if not all major players in the plugin industry.

Wrong.

[poleda]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

Do you mean such big players like N.I. or Universal Audio ?

Do you truly think a company can survive the future without eventually adopting VST3?

I'll take your bet anytime, name your price.

[rod_zero]

As long as it's not embraced by everyone it can hardly be called an industry standard. Kinda hate that term.

I'm not sure you've gotten the memo, but VST2 is out the door. You might want to "embrace" reality.

Reality: DAWs will keep supporting VST2, developers too and keep releaseing VST2 versions

I will bet the adoption of VST3 will continue to be slow until DAW's actually drop VST2 support and I don't that will happen in the next 7 years.

[wagtunes]

My preparation for the future is: not being a Cubase user. So I could care less about what they "memo", other hosts won't be dropping VST2 support, I can almost bet on that.

For the handful of users and companies that are still complaining about the future of VST, there's an entire industry that has adopted it and have been using it for years now. Just like the 16 bit operating system, it will eventually be phased out over time.

Doesn't mean you can't still run Windows XP and your rare copy of a Tracker that has been hacked and configured to accept VST2 plugins. Go on with your bad self, if that's the way you "need" to make music.

But, it's like the old saying goes... either change with the future or be left in the past.

Except what are the benefits of VST 3 over VST 2? As a Cubase user, I use both and to me, I see no difference.

So please enlighten me as to why VST 3 is so much better.

One will still be supported and updated as technologies advance, the other will sit stagnant.

That tells me nothing about the advantages. Does VST 3 work better? Does it make my plugins more stable? Does it reduce memory usage? I mean come on man, give me an ADVANTAGE.

You've given me nothing.

[poleda]

As long as it's not embraced by everyone it can hardly be called an industry standard. Kinda hate that term.

I'm not sure you've gotten the memo, but VST2 is out the door. You might want to "embrace" reality.

Reality: DAWs will keep supporting VST2, developers too and keep releaseing VST2 versions

I will bet the adoption of VST3 will continue to be slow until DAW's actually drop VST2 support and I don't that will happen in the next 7 years.

That's what they said a few years ago about 64 bit operating system. Look at all those users now on their free Windows 10 64 bit operation systems, oh how times have changed.

[poleda]

That tells me nothing about the advantages. Does VST 3 work better? Does it make my plugins more stable? Does it reduce memory usage? I mean come on man, give me an ADVANTAGE.

You've given me nothing.

It's not my job to convince you of the future, sorry.

[wagtunes]

As long as it's not embraced by everyone it can hardly be called an industry standard. Kinda hate that term.

I'm not sure you've gotten the memo, but VST2 is out the door. You might want to "embrace" reality.

Reality: DAWs will keep supporting VST2, developers too and keep releaseing VST2 versions

I will bet the adoption of VST3 will continue to be slow until DAW's actually drop VST2 support and I don't that will happen in the next 7 years.

That's what they said a few years ago about 64 bit operating system. Look at all those users now on their free Windows 10 64 bit operation systems, oh how times have changed.

See, 64 bit I see an advantage. A distinct advantage if you're using sample libraries. In fact, a lot of the stuff I use simply won't run on 32 bit because of the massive memory requirements.

That's an advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit.

Give me something tangible like that in regard to VST 3 vs VST 2.