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Caine123 wrote:
no problem :), i uploaded a quickly made dark ambience with some hit etc. first the dry version with no reverb = dry then the wet version with a DARK PLATE on send and all 3 instruments routed to it, i would wonder myself when i would add not some low BRASS part + strings from symphobie if they would clash with the DARK PLATE reverb or not.

What you are saying is not making any sense.
Real instruments should sound like they sound, you are not supposed to adjust real instrument to some effect or synth, but to do the opposite.

What you are asking is like asking will someone's vocal will clash with your guitar sound.
So, you recorded your guitar and you recorded someone singing and you have frequencies clashing with each other and instead of EQ-ing guitar you EQ vocals. Then, people hear there's something terrible going on with vocals, but you are like:"Bro, but hear my guitar".
Who gives a shit about your guitar....

Same thing is with orchestral libraries and real instruments in general if you are doing something hybrid,
mixing orchestral sound library with synths.
Your real instruments should sound right FIRST and then you jerk off with synths and effects.

That's why it doesn't make any sense to create something with synth and then ask will orchestra will blend with it because you don't cripple the real instrument in favor of synth or effect.
If you use bad reverb on strings, people will notice it and nobody will care about your synth sound or effect, that trash reverb on those strings will just caught their attention and keep molesting their ears throughout the track, the same way badly EQ-ed vocals in favor of guitar would molest someone's ears.
Everyone is familiar with orchestral sound, those instruments exist for hundreds of years and there is a "standard" how the whole thing should sound and it sounds the way it sounds because you have 100 people on stage playing instruments and those 100 people need space and you need big space to place all of them and of course that you need to apply ambience, reverb so that the whole thing sounds natural.

But, let's ignore that, let's cripple the sound of entire orchestra in favor of synth with reverb on it.
Even better, let's choose which orchestral library to buy based on that.
Dude, you are not making any sense.

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Hey dude i get you dude. Maybe my english sucks but i was not concerned about eqing but the stage sound as i dunno about orchestra sounds in stage i asked. So thats it. Cause i learned that you should e.g. use 2 different reverbs for exsmple a wooden small room for vocals and suddenly a dark plate for a bass with upper harmonics and may even further a small cathedral verb on a violin. 3 verbs which will clash each other. And thats why i thought the instruments of symphobia with a stage wet sound would clash with a vocal with a reverb etc.
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Caine123 wrote:Hey dude i get you dude. Maybe my english sucks but i was not concerned about eqing but the stage sound as i dunno about orchestra sounds in stage i asked. So thats it. Cause i learned that you should e.g. use 2 different reverbs for exsmple a wooden small room for vocals and suddenly a dark plate for a bass with upper harmonics and may even further a small cathedral verb on a violin. 3 verbs which will clash each other. And thats why i thought the instruments of symphobia with a stage wet sound would clash with a vocal with a reverb etc.
I used EQ-ing as an example, same thing is with reverbs.
I posted you samples of dry Stage and Close samples in Symphobia that have zero reverb for you to hear the actual difference between those 2 things, in my first post.

THE ONLY THING which you can notice is a slight ambience and that aimbence exists because you can't place like 5 people into 2 square meters to record them. That aimbence is completely unnoticeable when you use it in music which means that you can use whatever reverb on it you want.

What EXACTLY part you don't understand here?
You act like samples in Symphobia come with some gigantic reverb only, while that's NOT the case.
Samples are basically absolutely dry and then you apply your own reverb on them or use their own reverb in their patches in Kontakt.

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