KOMPLETE 12 & 12 ULTIMATE Leak! Massive X Synthesizer, Kontakt 6...
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
I think the basic logic is that there are only 2 things we really know about Massive X. One is that it will co-exist with the existing Massive and not replace, and the other is that is has a separate library of content, AFAIK unlike any of NI's existing synths. Not an unreasonable deduction therefore that it is a synth with its own engine (a la Massive) but that also has significant sample content.chk071 wrote:Also, why would Massive "go after Omnisphere"? Massive is a wavetable synth, not a VA/rompler hybrid.
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- KVRAF
- 22872 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
The only thing we know for sure about Massive X is that we have no idea what it is going to be.
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- Banned
- 195 posts since 18 May, 2016
Well, NI really does need some sort of realistic competitor to Halion 6 or UVI Falcon, with all their modulation matrix and sound-stacking complexities, and I hope Massive X, if this is for real, provides that. Otherwise, speaking for myself alone, my next money won't go to NI but to Halion 6.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Absynth has been that for years. Unless 25 folders of them is insignificant.a synth with its own engine but that also has significant sample content.
Don't get me wrong, I think a direct competitor to Falcon is something I would buy.
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Yes fair dos, while 2gb isn’t big in today’s world you’re right it’s still a factory library (albeit without its own install path). I’d expect Massive X to be much bigger there.jancivil wrote:Absynth has been that for years. Unless 25 folders of them is insignificant.a synth with its own engine but that also has significant sample content.
Interesting thought re Falcon, but Kontakt might be the one to scale up in that sense. Maybe Kontakt 6 will add a lot of synthesis stuff, who knows. With all these options, the lines start to get blurred between products.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Not sure if a kind of Falcon from N.I. would be something i like. There is already Reaktor which is much more powerful in theory and Kontakt which handles large sample libraries much better.
But all has one in common...much clicking around and a workflow i don´t like.
So i still much prefer simpler but also powerful tools like EXS24, Alchemy or even some iOS apps which does actually make fun to sample and resample with and/or using multi-samples mangled trough synthesis.
Then i hope Massive X is indeed just kind of Massive 2.0 with better GUI and some other extras.
But then i own Komplete 11 and use it close to never now.
But all has one in common...much clicking around and a workflow i don´t like.
So i still much prefer simpler but also powerful tools like EXS24, Alchemy or even some iOS apps which does actually make fun to sample and resample with and/or using multi-samples mangled trough synthesis.
Then i hope Massive X is indeed just kind of Massive 2.0 with better GUI and some other extras.
But then i own Komplete 11 and use it close to never now.
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I just hope it won't be a Reaktor ensemble as I imagine it draining my CPU in one sip! But it is hard to think otherwise. Anyway, it depends also on what is that "Massive X" looks/sounds and how much the upgrade price from Massive 
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Yeah, either way. It would probably be more cost-effective for me if they did take on Falcon than buying Falcon, I'd prefer to avoid UVI in the first place. NI is 'home' to me in terms of looking at a GUI; old, set in my ways.noiseboyuk wrote:Yes fair dos, while 2gb isn’t big in today’s world you’re right it’s still a factory library (albeit without its own install path). I’d expect Massive X to be much bigger there.jancivil wrote:Absynth has been that for years. Unless 25 folders of them is insignificant.a synth with its own engine but that also has significant sample content.
Interesting thought re Falcon, but Kontakt might be the one to scale up in that sense. Maybe Kontakt 6 will add a lot of synthesis stuff, who knows. With all these options, the lines start to get blurred between products.
With certain SonicCouture libs, I'm using Kontakt kind of as a synth now, getting far away from the source with all the control of envelope and velocity to filters. I'm not really picturing Massive very expansively, as per Falcon but that notion was brought in.
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- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wagtunes wrote:The only thing we know for sure about Massive X is that we have no idea what it is going to be.
something around a gigantic y? there will probably be a huge z nearby too.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
So the rumour is Massive X is going to be sample based.
The recently released sample based Sequential Circuits synth is called the Prophet X.
Coincidence? Will both have 8DIO content?
The recently released sample based Sequential Circuits synth is called the Prophet X.
Coincidence? Will both have 8DIO content?
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- KVRist
- 479 posts since 13 May, 2012 from Minnesota
I couldn't say but I hope they're not the same price.$Mushy Mushy wrote:So the rumour is Massive X is going to be sample based.
The recently released sample based Sequential Circuits synth is called the Prophet X.
Coincidence? Will both have 8DIO content?
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
They are both based synths that combine synthesis with a large bank of samples.dreamkeeper wrote:Absynth and Omnisphere have as much in common as a F1 race car and a Rolls Royce...v1o wrote:Unlike others here I don’t think Massive X is going after Omnishpere. There’s already Absynth for that.
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- KVRAF
- 11994 posts since 12 May, 2008
And they both have granular and wavetables and multi-point envelopes and osc effects like ring mod, fm, wave shaping. They are quite different but there are plenty of similarities.v1o wrote:They are both based synths that combine synthesis with a large bank of samples.dreamkeeper wrote:Absynth and Omnisphere have as much in common as a F1 race car and a Rolls Royce...v1o wrote:Unlike others here I don’t think Massive X is going after Omnishpere. There’s already Absynth for that.
