8DIO - My experience

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mcbpete
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1265 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:27 am

topaz wrote:Cellos , programm a fast 16th ostinato.
By the way it’s acknowledged by 8DIO. I made a YouTube video to demonstrate.
Do you have a link to this video, am curious as to how badly it sounds

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zvenx
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6751 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Re: 8DIO - stay away from them!

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:47 am

mcbpete wrote:
topaz wrote:Cellos , programm a fast 16th ostinato.
By the way it’s acknowledged by 8DIO. I made a YouTube video to demonstrate.
Do you have a link to this video, am curious as to how badly it sounds
I am too.
As I really never noticed it....and I also have (but don't' use Hollywood Strings)
rsp
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topaz
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4224 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

Re: 8DIO - stay away from them!

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:48 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQT-39fSN6o
mcbpete wrote:
topaz wrote:Cellos , programm a fast 16th ostinato.
By the way it’s acknowledged by 8DIO. I made a YouTube video to demonstrate.
Do you have a link to this video, am curious as to how badly it sounds

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zvenx
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6751 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:54 am

Thanks @topaz.

I can hear it. Let me try to reproduce it on my system.
did Tyler leave the chat without even responding?
damn.

rsp
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topaz
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4224 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:07 am

kind off, he basically spun me some kind of nonsense cop out.
zvenx wrote:Thanks @topaz.

I can hear it. Let me try to reproduce it on my system.
did Tyler leave the chat without even responding?
damn.

rsp

mcbpete
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1265 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: 8DIO - stay away from them!

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:11 am

I totally hear it - It's like it's not quite getting samples in time almost randomly. Does the same thing happen on the export / freeze&flatten ?

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topaz
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4224 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:20 am

I didn't actually try that.

now you do jog my memory though. 8DIO support told me to render and nudge notes to the grid.

speaks volumes that.
mcbpete wrote:I totally hear it - It's like it's not quite getting samples in time almost randomly. Does the same thing happen on the export / freeze&flatten ?

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zvenx
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6751 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:24 am

topaz wrote:kind off, he basically spun me some kind of nonsense cop out.
zvenx wrote:Thanks @topaz.

I can hear it. Let me try to reproduce it on my system.
did Tyler leave the chat without even responding?
damn.

rsp
I tried it with this library and one form Spitfire, one for AudioBros and one from Cinematic Studio Series, only this one has that issue..
really never noticed it before.
sorry
rsp
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phreaque
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733 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:49 am

A little advise, what defines an instrument is those little noises artifacts and nuances, without them it would just sound robotic, lifeless and artificial...
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topaz
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4224 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:05 am

If you are looking for a sloppy out of time sounding string library, fill yer boots.

Noise artifacts fine. sloppy timing & unedited samples not.
phreaque wrote:A little advise, what defines an instrument is those little noises artifacts and nuances, without them it would just sound robotic, lifeless and artificial...
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mcbpete
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1265 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: 8DIO - stay away from them!

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:08 am

phreaque wrote:A little advise, what defines an instrument is those little noises artifacts and nuances, without them it would just sound robotic, lifeless and artificial...
Absolutely, though in that Youtube example that topaz posted it came across more like one of the performers had the hiccups whilst performing

elxsound
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4581 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Re: 8DIO - stay away from them!

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:42 am

topaz wrote:If you are looking for a sloppy out of time sounding string library, fill yer boots.

Noise artifacts fine. sloppy timing & unedited samples not.
I've been saying this for a long time (since their methods/problems are the same since Tonehammer days).

I stopped mentioning after getting attacked for brining it up.

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phreaque
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733 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:52 am

topaz wrote:If you are looking for a sloppy out of time sounding string library, fill yer boots.

Noise artifacts fine. sloppy timing & unedited samples not.
phreaque wrote:A little advise, what defines an instrument is those little noises artifacts and nuances, without them it would just sound robotic, lifeless and artificial...
You're right, if it's about rhythmic timing surely it sucks. Btw, have you tried to simulate that issue in Kontakt standalone being fed by external sequencer? or virtual midi cable? It could be some plugin buffering size compatibility setting issue that occurs when using Ableton.
Phreaque Modi

mcbpete
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1265 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:03 am

Yeah the buffering and/or PDC and/or some-kind-of-latency-for-whatever-reason was why I was curious as to whether it manifests itself when rendered out.

GearNostalgia
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255 posts since 28 Dec, 2017

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:26 am

topaz wrote:kind off, he basically spun me some kind of nonsense cop out.
zvenx wrote:Thanks @topaz.

I can hear it. Let me try to reproduce it on my system.
did Tyler leave the chat without even responding?
damn.

rsp
Did you ask for any kind of solution or compensation? Just curious, cause that was the point where we hit a rock wall in my case. Zero solutions policy...

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