Do you produce music based on..?

[vurt]

IMO the "producer" is often more this bit nerdy type of musician, interested into song writing and also into this technical aspects of song production.

I think that's quite accurate. A lot of 'producers' (and I use the term in the old, 'proper' way - i.e. someone who oversees the production of a song/album etc, not just anyone who has a computer and makes some music..) have done time in bands. Some band members like to get into the drugs/groupies etc, whilst there is usually one who hangs around with the engineers and technical people and gets into the process. I was one of those boring bastards....

guess which one i was

[foosnark]

Tinkering with modulars is not playing a musical instrument, and making drone - dark ambient is not making music.

"Tinkering", that's cute.

It's a bit like telling an author "tinkering with word processors is not really writing."

[Vortifex]

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[thecontrolcentre]

Thank God for DVDs. I think I will put in "Once Upon a Time in the West".

Now THAT is a film score.

Pure genius. Seems to be a lost art ...

[vurt]

Tinkering with modulars is not playing a musical instrument, and making drone - dark ambient is not making music.

It is. It's just not music that you like.

are you ok donks?

luckily for me, while I tinker with modulars, i do not make ambient. i make random noises. so im ok

[vurt]

Tinkering with modulars is not playing a musical instrument, and making drone - dark ambient is not making music.

"Tinkering", that's cute.

It's a bit like telling an author "tinkering with word processors is not really writing."

all that studying you did previous is irrelevant now, soon as you touch your first cable all that information was wiped from your brain and you are no longer "musical".
its sad really, modular paraphernalia should come with a warning.
im writing to the king immediately!

[Dasheesh]

Modern music isn't about the music, that's where you guys are over complicate things, it's lowest common denominator content. It's just trying to hit as many people as possible. First, a dance track has jack all to do with melody, it's about a beat...it's beat generated music. Then you put a simple melody on top (nothing too complicated), then you throw a bunch of FX on it to give it wow, then smash it all into square waves with as many limiters as you can.

Now, here's the trick... you have to promote it. You have gone out of your way to make a track as accessible as possible to as many people as possible, but you still have to give it street cred. That's were "Living it" comes in. You have to have an army of young people willing to spread it everywhere. You have to be out in the clubs and the parties surrounding yourself with peers. Buy all the social media likes you can... but you are still going to need that word of mouth street cred. If you are older then 24 you can forget it... just move on. You will have another shot when you get grey and old, and then you can come out as the grizzled old rockers, that tends to still sell for a few albums. Mostly older people that still want to feel young. It's about being accessible and finding your market, not about the music. People don't care about that. People will buy dogshit in a bag if you sell it to them right.

[vurt]

Modern music isn't about the music, that's where you guys are over complicate things, it's lowest common denominator content.

i cant wait till im old enough to piss myself in public and rant at pigeons.

[Jace-BeOS]

I don't care about the music business or popularity. I don't care about genres. I never consciously attempt to make music that fits any preconceived style or genre. I will often start from a position of fitting a tone, mood, level of complexity/business, but nothing solid. The sounds guide me, not any plans I might make. The closest I get to aiming for a genre is when I make a song that's influenced by a specific song of someone else's (but what I create does not necessarily fit into the genre of the inspiring piece, and, hopefully, what I create is its own piece, rather than a retread of the song that inspired me).

I know what I like... and I have a feeling that the music I like most is not the music that comes to me easiest. I have to put a lot of work into what I do, regardless, but I think the melodies that come to me easily are ... too light. Cheesy. My oldest work, when I was making music in trackers, was much more "cheery" than what I make today, and I feel that stuff was cheesy. Granted, tracker music is easily cheesy anyway. I have a very strong sense of self-censorship at this point, in terms of creative output. It's probably too strong a censorship...

I prefer intense and dramatic music, in a somewhat arty version of the pop structure. I'm most influenced by NIN (especially The Fragile), mid to late Depeche Mode, and late Gary Numan. I was originally inspired by soundtracks (mostly classic Doctor Who's early/mid 80s stuff), and some other soundtracks, so that's in there too. I'm a rather intense person, and lately very angry/disgusted at my life and the world (especially my country), but I don't find it at all easy to translate any of that emotion into music creation (writing lyrics to songs, or writing songs for prose, is extremely difficult for me).

...I think I created a thread about this very subject once...

[Daimonicon]

I've always interested in modern electronic music, such as drum n bass, techno etc. But when I tried to produce that kind of music, its always too cheesy (the melody, rhythm and sound design). I'm coming from traditional music background, playing guitar in bands. So everytime I improvised in production, the output always just plain, boring melody and rhytm.

I know its a looong way to master one genre, but I'm just curious, do you produce music based on your interest or based on what is naturally come out from you? I hope everyone understand my question

Sure I understand. I'm not in to electronic music, well except for ambient stuff. But some non-musicians have the predjudice electronic music is so simple, just press a button and your'e done, you don't need any talent. Yeah right!
Making music is easy but make music one can be proud of isn't that easy and make music other love is even more difficult. Listen to tracks you like and analyze them. Try to make more or less the same track and see what happens. Everyone steals from others and make their own thing of it, just like you do/did with guitar.
Well the best thing with electronic music,you don't have to spend time to tune synths.

[donkey tugger]

Tinkering with modulars is not playing a musical instrument, and making drone - dark ambient is not making music.

It is. It's just not music that you like.

are you ok donks?

D

Well, the sinthesiser wibbling isn't my cup of Boss Super either, but I wouldn't say that it doesn't constitute music.

[Dasheesh]

It’s already done for you. You load an ableton templet. Open a sample pack. You load a preset. Hit play. Need production? That’s done for you to now. The hard part is selling it, if you are not perceived as making dollars you are trash. You will be ignored. Move on. The music is the game.

[Dasheesh]

Don’t believe me? Pretty sure there was a thread on here not too long ago about why is BEYONCÉ so good? Did you see how many times Drake’s album got listened to with the spread of twitter in 3 ( THAT’S THREE) days? Like a BILLION. In 3 days. No lie people listened to that album a Billion times in three days. How many do you think bought it? 20% ?

[thecontrolcentre]

[donkey tugger]

Don’t believe me? Pretty sure there was a thread on here not too long ago about why is BEYONCÉ so good? Did you see how many times Drake’s album got listened to with the spread of twitter in 3 ( THAT’S THREE) days? Like a BILLION. In 3 days. No lie people listened to that album a Billion times in three days. How many do you think bought it? 20% ?

..and he still had time to finish his game of bowls.