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The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:27 pm

The oldest known hip hop release turns 50 this month.

Here's to 50 more

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:42 pm

A precursor to hip hop is not hip hop

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:00 pm

generaldiomedes wrote:A precursor to hip hop is not hip hop

+1.
I have just read the wiki article. It's seeds were planted, but it wasn't born yet, let alone had a name. Lines are very vague here...

Ask yourself: is there a "best before" date on (sub)genres? Which genres age well, which don't, and how come?

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:31 pm

Great song tho. Much closer to James brown than the sugar hill gang.

farlukar · Post by **farlukar** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:35 pm

Cue the "artist X was never genre Y" wars

This guy is hip hop enough for me.

Then again,

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:37 pm

ivor cutler, the only hip hop i ever needed!

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:42 am

If it were released today it would be considered hip hop.

It wasn't very connected to hip hop as a genre but musically it absolutely is.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:53 am

The Chase wrote:If it were released today it would be considered hip hop.

I doubt it.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:57 am

Well it's rapping for sure, but then rapping is really just talking instead of singing to music (or mixed up with singing) - lot's of spoken word poetry set to music does that, particularly in jazz with the scat tradition and things like this (one of my favourite songs ever) and artists like Gil Scott-Heron, Annette Peacock etc

then you could also bring in Sprechgesang, toasting etc

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:01 am

I'd stick to the history stated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music#1970s

I'd also refrain from calling Klaus Schulze the inventor of Trance. Or, Kraftwerk as the inventors of Techno music. That feels as wrong to me as to say that the track in the OP is hip hop. Of course, aynthing else after it has certain elements of such music, but, it can hardly be called the same.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:17 am

Here comes the judge is a funk track.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:38 pm

Three cheers for rap music...

Hip Hop!

....i'll get me coat...

Hip Hop Turns 50