Zebra 2 Brain Overload

[pdxindy]

the U-he linux plugin ports

As a buyer, even if I didn't use Linux, just knowing that there WAS a linux port of the plugins would be enough to convince me to buy them. Not for altruistic reasons, but because it's an indicator of excellence. You'd think a Steinberg or an Avid would do it for that reason alone, for the virtue signalling points to show that they are professional products and not consumer toys.

With Bitwig and the u-he synths... I have everything I need. So if Apple/Microsoft become too troublesome, I know I can switch to Linux.

[bbtr]

nm

[fmr]

Easy. Bitwig has already chosen. Just do the same. But then, you might feel brave and use another distribution. If not, just do as Bitwig does. That's the way they mostly provide Linux support also.

And then, I must use exactly the same audio interface as Bitwig, the same computer configuration as Bitwig, and I can't add anything to the system if Bitwig does not have it running too.

This sounds like Avid/Digidesign, that used to publish a list of "approved" computers, and would not offer any guarantees or support outside that list

[Urs]

nm

What? Nevermind? After several peeps at u-he tested your preset in various hosts to figure out what difference we're supposed to hear? After I was just gonna post proof that BPM does not affect oscillators?

Man, sometimes I wish I could send people an invoice...

[Captain]

nm

What? Nevermind? After several peeps at u-he tested your preset in various hosts to figure out what difference we're supposed to hear? After I was just gonna post proof that BPM does not affect oscillators?

My thoughts exactly. I bounced a saw wave from Zebra at a couple of different tempos (including the famous 15 BPM), then aligned the bounces, reversed phase, the files cancelled each other bit by bit. Just as I thought, as I really can't understand how the oscillator of any soft synth could care about the host tempo (unless we are talking about some tempo-synced modulation etc). Came back here to post my findings, and well, never mind.

[chk071]

the U-he linux plugin ports

As a buyer, even if I didn't use Linux, just knowing that there WAS a linux port of the plugins would be enough to convince me to buy them. Not for altruistic reasons, but because it's an indicator of excellence. You'd think a Steinberg or an Avid would do it for that reason alone, for the virtue signalling points to show that they are professional products and not consumer toys.

Kvr never ceases to surprise me.
WHAT!!!!!???
rsp

[EvilDragon]

Because all the other OSes (note the plural you are using)

Yeah that one was always confusing to me.

OS means "operating system", so by your logic, OSes would translate to "operating systemes", which is a bit off, eh?

It should probably be OS', to go with the common s+apostrophe rule?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm just waiting for the KVR freakout over the new "Windows as a subscription service" leaks. Microsoft reportedly will start charging monthly fees (a "subscription") to maintain Windows desktops. It's almost certain to be limited to business clients, and I can't imagine it trickling down to the consumer market any time soon, but I'm pretty sure people will freak out about it and threaten to move to Mac or Linux.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft ... nthly-fee/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkell ... 5725b172c1

BTW, I fully endorse "OSes." That's how I'd say it. Visually, it looks plural. An apostrephe afterwards would make me think it was possessive and the operating systems in question collectively owned something.

[chk071]

I'm just waiting for the KVR freakout over the new "Windows as a subscription service" leaks. Microsoft reportedly will start charging monthly fees (a "subscription") to maintain Windows desktops. It's almost certain to be limited to business clients, and I can't imagine it trickling down to the consumer market any time soon, but I'm pretty sure people will freak out about it and threaten to move to Mac or Linux.

Well, that would be stupid, because, as you say, it will only be for business clients. New Mac OS versions are free, so why would Windows charge home users?

You know, it's the same thing which is so apparent in this thread. Religious conviction, which totally blinds your reasoning. And quite a bit of crybaby attitude as well, of course.

[low_low]

Well, that would be stupid, because, as you say, it will only be for business clients. New Mac OS versions are free, so why would Windows charge home users?

You know, it's the same thing which is so apparent in this thread. Religious conviction, which totally blinds your reasoning. And quite a bit of crybaby attitude as well, of course.

I haven't seen any religious convictions about linux on this thread, and I'm the one who has posted most about the operating system.

I have seen a number of people who probably have never even used Linux who are really sure they know all about it, however.

Who is more likely to know about linux ... people who use linux AND windows ... or people who just use windows ?

[EnochLight]

I can't believe people are even thinking about Linux.

NO.

ONE.

USES.

IT.

The entire worldwide desktop/laptop OS market is dominated by Windows and OSX. The vast majority of bedroom musicians (which are 99% of the people here) all use either Windows or OSX. Why would any plugin or DAW dev commit resources and time to Linux? Serious question.

There's more reasons to commit to iOS or Android than Linux.

[low_low]

I can't believe people are even thinking about Linux.

NO.

ONE.

USES.

IT.

The entire worldwide desktop/laptop OS market is dominated by Windows and OSX. The vast majority of bedroom musicians (which are 99% of the people here) all use either Windows or OSX. Why would any VST/AU or DAW dev commit resources and time to Linux?

Serious question.

You are simply wrong. Linux dominates the server market and is used widely in business, film editing, etc. Nobody has said that there was a large linux base in audio production, I simply said Linux would be good for it if it ever happened. I wasn't even promoting it.

You ask why anyone would support Linux ... why not go over to the u-he forum and ask Urs directly, u-he supports linux with all of their major plugins including Diva, Zebra, Ace, etc. Why not just go ask him, he's obviously gone to a lot of trouble to support linux, he must have a reason for having done it, right ? Or you could go and ask Steinberg why they're now supporting Linux in their VST 3 SDK, but it will probably be a harder place to get an answer. They all have skin in the game, and I'm Urs seems approachable enough to give you a straight answer.

Of course .. that assumes your question wasn't rhetorical and you actually want to know.

[zvenx]

I.............. Why would any plugin or DAW dev commit resources and time to Linux? Serious question.

There's more reasons to commit to iOS or Android than Linux.

Apparently:

but because it's an indicator of excellence

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or the virtue signalling points to show that they are professional products and not consumer toys.

rsp

[zvenx]

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You ask why anyone would support Linux ... why not go over to the u-he forum and ask Urs directly, u-he supports linux with all of their major plugins including Diva, Zebra, Ace, etc. Why not just go ask him, he's obviously gone to a lot of trouble to support linux, he must have a reason for having done it, right ? Or you could go and ask Steinberg why they're now supporting Linux in their VST 3 SDK, but it will probably be a harder place to get an answer. They all have skin in the game, and I'm Urs seems approachable enough to give you a straight answer.

Urs has answered it several times and my recollection isn't at all what you are saying it is. At all!!
rsp

[low_low]

Urs has answered it several times and my recollection isn't at all what you are saying it is. At all!!
rsp

How could it be what I said it was when I never said it was anything ? Unless you're planning to put words in my mouth.