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Well this thread has taken a turn since I last checked it. Unless something has changed since the last time I tried, I imagine the inability to authorize NI software running with Wine is a deal breaker for a lot of people since you can't use Kontakt, which rules out a huge number (a substantial majority, I'd guess) of detailed sample-based instruments.

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Congrats on the playlist, and also the sound-designing.
But linux musicians also have all that's needed to
edit and master whatever they create, with access to
a wide range of wonderful tools. You stating what
_you_ could not do, has nothing to do with what
anyone else _can_ do. You've stated the end of your story,
but it's got nothing to do with anyone elses story.

Many windows users here will have unique setups
and software selections not replicated by others,
and no story ends because of that, rather, diverse
tools can lead to diverse music being created.

Mac users, with somewhat smaller catalogs to purchase from,
also can have unique setups. Ones tool selection does not
define the end of any story.
Cheers

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glokraw wrote:Congrats on the playlist, and also the sound-designing.
But linux musicians also have all that's needed to
edit and master whatever they create, with access to
a wide range of wonderful tools. You stating what
_you_ could not do, has nothing to do with what
anyone else _can_ do. You've stated the end of your story,
but it's got nothing to do with anyone elses story.

Many windows users here will have unique setups
and software selections not replicated by others,
and no story ends because of that, rather, diverse
tools can lead to diverse music being created.

Mac users, with somewhat smaller catalogs to purchase from,
also can have unique setups. Ones tool selection does not
define the end of any story.
Cheers
I don't care about anybody else. I care that I can't do what I do using Linux. But I can do it using Windows or MAC. That's all I care about. So if I was on Linux, I'd be screwed. Linux would not serve my needs. And I am sure there are more musicians that would be in the same boat using Linux as opposed to using Windows or MAC.

That's my point and it's the only point that matters.

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Yes you can make great music with Linux, but the question is can you make the type of music you want to create? If you want to make synthesizer-driven music you're set - Zebra and the rest of the UHe synths are great and lots of Windows synths will work with Wine. If you want to use sampled instruments, unless there's something I'm not thinking of you're out of luck. Kontakt won't authorize, UVI is iLok, I'd be surprised if EastWest works etc.

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Oh and you know what? This is easy enough to prove. Make a list of all the software that's supported by Windows, MAC and Linux and you'll see that Linux has the shortest list. This is indisputable.

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wagtunes wrote:Oh and you know what? This is easy enough to prove. Make a list of all the software that's supported by Windows, MAC and Linux and you'll see that Linux has the shortest list. This is indisputable.
What has a list of tools to do with creativity?

This whole debate so nonsense. :roll:

Mac = snobs
Windows = plugin collectors
Linux = retarded freaks

It's all cliché!

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Etienne1973 wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Oh and you know what? This is easy enough to prove. Make a list of all the software that's supported by Windows, MAC and Linux and you'll see that Linux has the shortest list. This is indisputable.
What has a list of tools to do with creativity?

This whole debate so nonsense. :roll:

Mac = snobs
Windows = plugin collectors
Linux = retarded freaks

It's all cliché!
So which one of those is you? Or do you not make music?

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Greenstorm33 wrote:Well this thread has taken a turn since I last checked it. Unless something has changed since the last time I tried, I imagine the inability to authorize NI software running with Wine is a deal breaker for a lot of people since you can't use Kontakt, which rules out a huge number (a substantial majority, I'd guess) of detailed sample-based instruments.
Things have changed, there is someone at the Reaper linux
forum who is an avid Kontakt user, and there is a Kontakt
user on the wine team now ,and much work has been done to enable using Native Access (thanks osxmidi and Jack Winter!).
It's not carved in stone yet, with NI having divers coders,
but the NA processes can be interrupted,
and installs completed and authorized. Kontakt use in linux
is described here:

https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=18496

questions can be asked here, with hope of the latest
information of success/failure within reaper and wine:

https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=18496

There are limits to how wine handles plugin processes,
but things are better now than last year, and will
continue to improve. Documented successes are out there,
I've authorized Reaktor player, Form demo, Razor, Prism, and the free Replika/Phasis, and used sneakernet
to get Kontakt free player working, as proof of concept,
as I'm happy with SampleTank, and Dimension Pro.
Cheers

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wagtunes wrote:
Etienne1973 wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Oh and you know what? This is easy enough to prove. Make a list of all the software that's supported by Windows, MAC and Linux and you'll see that Linux has the shortest list. This is indisputable.
What has a list of tools to do with creativity?

This whole debate so nonsense. :roll:

Mac = snobs
Windows = plugin collectors
Linux = retarded freaks

It's all cliché!
So which one of those is you? Or do you not make music?
I'm on Mac. Apple Logic is my DAW etc. . :pray:

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wagtunes wrote:Oh and you know what? This is easy enough to prove. Make a list of all the software that's supported by Windows, MAC and Linux and you'll see that Linux has the shortest list. This is indisputable.
It's also irrelevant, you goin' out for
plugin collector of the year award?
100 gallon$ of GAS to the winner? :hihi:

Wine doesn't require a degree, just some forum browsing,
and much to the chagrine of FOSS zealots, makes hordes
of great windows plugins available. Several fine audio-centric
linux distros are available, with 95% of the work done,
jusy run your installers, or drag some .dlls, fire up
Reaper, and play.

Needing Reaper is a fly in many ointments, but wrapping
plugins with linvst makes them native to linux, where Bitwig,
Mixbus, Renoise, Tracktion, and others, can get involved.
There are also several happy FLStudio users
:hyper: I know you really care :hyper:
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wagtunes wrote:
That's my point and it's the only point that matters.
Now there's a country/western song waiting to happen!

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Etienne1973 wrote:
Mac = snobs
Windows = plugin collectors
Linux = retarded freaks entrepreneurs, scientists, engineers, and others upon whom the gods have chosen to shower their gifts, treasures, and glory

It's all cliché!
Fixed it.

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https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=18535

This is but one example of a linux developer sharing his work.

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wagtunes wrote: You need to see creations?
The question was to those people who replied, not you. OBVIOUSLY there's a lot of music being made using both Windows and Mac. Please do not be a warrior of sorts in order to promote your material.

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glokraw wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
That's my point and it's the only point that matters.
Now there's a country/western song waiting to happen!
Of course but, the gauge would be quality, not taste. I like a Jackson Browne song once in a while. Or a Neil Young country song (not the cool ones with the vocoder in the 80s which are great :)

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