Zebra 2 Brain Overload

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mevla
KVRAF
1596 posts since 3 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:13 am

EnochLight wrote:Ahhhh, I see. You're "one of those people", who - when cornered - suddenly make it a dance off competition.
Nope. It's as questioned before, related to the 'poor and limited choice of plugins in Linux'. Are you collecting plugins w/o really creating anything ? Simple question. Nothing to get your moquery aroused. Nothing to be ashamed. And certainly not a question to parade your ridicule. Unless that's all there is you can do.
EnochLight wrote:It's not necessary to move the goal posts of the conversation. Let's stay on topic.
As stated before. I initially wrote "Waiting for Zebra3 on Linux", which was on topic, and then people started to slam Linux. And in doing so started to show off their 'best'. So are you also really creating music with your rich and unlimited set of plugins ? :)

mevla
KVRAF
1596 posts since 3 Nov, 2015

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:22 am

Urs wrote:Any question about Zebra lately?
Sure. As I initially wrote at the beginning of this thread, before people started to slam Linux and thus doing showing off their 'best' : waiting for Zebra3 on Linux. So the question would be, does Alex have a head start in adapting Zebra3 to Linux or will there be any substantial delay after the official release ? Just slightly wondering, nothing that important at all. Almost chit-chat.

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EnochLight
KVRian
977 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:09 am

mevla wrote:
EnochLight wrote:Ahhhh, I see. You're "one of those people", who - when cornered - suddenly make it a dance off competition.
Nope. It's as questioned before, related to the 'poor and limited choice of plugins in Linux'. Are you collecting plugins w/o really creating anything ? Simple question. Nothing to get your moquery aroused. Nothing to be ashamed. And certainly not a question to parade your ridicule. Unless that's all there is you can do.
Nah, let's call it what it is: a dance off. Nothing to be ashamed about. Some people feel the deep need to show off their "skills", and they equate their skills to having value in themselves. What difference would it make if I'm a hobby musician, a carpenter, or a Grammy nominated producer? It doesn't change the facts. The facts are: the industry doesn't use Linux. It's mostly Windows and OSX. :) :party: Good that you love Linux, though. I'm sure you're having fun!
EnochLight wrote:It's not necessary to move the goal posts of the conversation. Let's stay on topic.
mevla wrote: As stated before. I initially wrote "Waiting for Zebra3 on Linux", which was on topic, and then people started to slam Linux. And in doing so started to show off their 'best'. So are you also really creating music with your rich and unlimited set of plugins ? :)
See above. But yes, I do create music with my rich and unlimited set of plugins. I've released an EP and two singles (not on Bandcamp; but via Apple Music, Spotify, etc). I'm currently working on an album. I just don't feel the need to pimp my wares here, since we're all musicians that come here to chat about our shared interests. Everyone's a delicate snowflake and we want people to hear our music... :hihi: :lol:

But if you're that set on hearing my wares, have at it:

https://open.spotify.com/artist/0Bmy6YJ ... JSxxmORc6Q

https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/nympheas/327192184

:party:
  • Presonus Studio One 3.5.x | too many VSTi's to name
  • Windows 10 64-bit | Reason 10.2 | RME Babyface Pro | Nektar Tech Panorama P4 | M-Audio Trigger Finger Pro | too many RE's to name

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:03 pm

Urs wrote:Any question about Zebra lately?
Any chance for a midi-out in Zebra3?
Or one/some of the other synths? It would
be great to run some SampleTank, Dimension Pro,
Bliss, or LinuxSampler sounds from a U-he arp/sequence.
Kontakt users might like that also.
Cheers

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:29 am

Ranoka wrote:I'm new around here. Is this thread peak KVR?
Every year or two, there is a thread where people pretend that
linux for audio is still where it was 8 or 10 years ago. and other people
point out capabilities that have improved since then.
Even the last year alone has seen important improvements.

As kvr discussions go, where sides are chosen,
this is very tame, while not fully knowing
your definition of 'peak'. There are discussions where
deep knowledge and genious are on parade, and it is those
I would consider as peak.

Now that others have shown me to be a 'retarded freak',
laboring in vain with 'piss poor choices', I can understand why
so much of the good 'peak' stuff is way over my head :dog:
Cheers

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:38 am

twitewhite wrote: I'd be willing to switch to Linux almost immediately once Bitwig/Reaper has a way to easily use Windows VSTs in Linux.
LinVst does make using vsts in linux daws very easy,
and most plugins lacking pace, dongles, or convoluted
installer/register apps will work. Wine-staging 3.13
or wine-stable 3.02 can be found at

www.winehq.org

and used in the background by LinVst

Here is a quick plugin-wrapping how-2

The LinVst archive provides

linvst.so
linvstconvert
linvstconverttree
to be placed in both /home/me and /usr/bin

and in just /usr/bin,

lin-vst-server.exe
lin-vst-server.exe.so
lin-vst-server32.exe
lin-vst-server32.exe.so

You can start linvstconvert or the linvstconverttree version in
a terminal, and a semi-self-explanatory gui opens
1. click the topmost button, labeled 'none', a browser opens,
browse to and select your linvst.so
2. click the next button down, should be labeled according to
your linux system username. In this popup browser, scroll down
to the bottom of the list, and select 'other',
then browse to the vst .dll, or
folder of vsts, that you want to convert.
3. click the bottom button, 'Start'. The plugins are wrapped,
and faster than you can doubleclick :hihi:

Now add your vst folder to your daw app's plugin path,
and restart it, or do a clear-cache-rescan etc.
Easy money!

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst

there are quite a few technicalities covered in the readme's
at the git site, along with the apps.

some debian-ubuntu binaries are there, so no compiling
is needed:

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/releases

There is now an official linux reaper forum
where questions will be answered, sometimes
by Justin himself.

https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52

And nearby is a dedicated topic for using windows vsts in
linux:

https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52

(the linvstconverttree version, will recursively find plugins
all in one go, handy when a dev has chosen to nest
the actual .dll file. But don't try it on the whole
Program Files folder, just a folder full of vsts,
wherever you choose to put it.

For a distro that's ready to make music,
iognulinux or avlinux are good choices.
Cheers

ZeePok
KVRian
997 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:36 am

zvenx wrote:Isn't it the other way around?
The english, colonialists? say Zebra like Debra like we do in the Caribbean and the Americans say Zeebra?
rsp
 
Actually, in German (and Dutch) it is pronounced: Zay-brah ;) :)

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martinjuenke
KVRAF
2210 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Germany

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:48 am

ZeePok wrote:
zvenx wrote:Isn't it the other way around?
The english, colonialists? say Zebra like Debra like we do in the Caribbean and the Americans say Zeebra?
rsp
 
Actually, in German (and Dutch) it is pronounced: Zay-brah ;) :)
Or: „The Bra“ :D

Music was my first love...
Flowing atmospheric music
http://www.sonoryth.bandcamp.com/music

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:55 pm

Here's a software/hardware collaboration from the realm of
retarded freaks with piss poor options:

https://youtu.be/8jpZ5qoz9lg

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:26 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPbAdnDXm4w

And for those without a MOD, keep in mind it's based on
linux Guitarix, and to keep on topic, run linux Zebra in linux Reaper,
and route that to the standalone Guitarix, and pretend you've got
intheblue's nice guitar, and get jamming. Record the combined
output in linux Timemachine, and be happy...like us
piss-poor-choices retarded freaks :hyper:

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fmr
KVRAF
7623 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:00 am

glokraw wrote: And for those without a MOD, keep in mind it's based on
linux Guitarix, and to keep on topic, run linux Zebra in linux Reaper,
and route that to the standalone Guitarix, and pretend you've got
intheblue's nice guitar, and get jamming. Record the combined
output in linux Timemachine, and be happy...like us
piss-poor-choices retarded freaks :hyper:
WOW... This is really a very simple and straightforward workflow :?:

You forgot to tell which distro, and where you do the routings... :hihi:

I bet all the people that have... let's say Guitar Rig, or Amplitube, will immediately jump on this solution. It looks so much better.
Fernando (FMR)

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martinjuenke
KVRAF
2210 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Germany

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:09 am

fmr wrote:
glokraw wrote: And for those without a MOD, keep in mind it's based on
linux Guitarix, and to keep on topic, run linux Zebra in linux Reaper,
and route that to the standalone Guitarix, and pretend you've got
intheblue's nice guitar, and get jamming. Record the combined
output in linux Timemachine, and be happy...like us
piss-poor-choices retarded freaks :hyper:
WOW... This is really a very simple and straightforward workflow :?:

You forgot to tell which distro, and where you do the routings... :hihi:

I bet all the people that have... let's say Guitar Rig, or Amplitube, will immediately jump on this solution. It looks so much better.
Yes, undeed!
I‘m already selling my guitar amps:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&t=509388

Music was my first love...
Flowing atmospheric music
http://www.sonoryth.bandcamp.com/music

glokraw
KVRAF
6493 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Zebra 2 Brain Overload

Post Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:33 am

The MOD hardware (newest version is a pre-order) can fill in
gaps, offer alternatives, and enhance existing systems.
There's no point in ditching massive investments put in
historic working systems, conversely, it's good luck to know
the latest options.
Lots of people have used linux based system recovery
tools, without having played a note.

For someone starting with a three-digit budget,
and/or time constraints regarding learning curves,
a MOD could be a great foundation,
eliminating lots of hardware purchases, while focussing
on one system. The MOD in the reviews uses a web interface,
so not a distro, here's a wiki:

https://wiki.moddevices.com/wiki/Developers

Guitarix works in most any linux version, with standalone,
LV2, and ladspa versions. Amplitube4 works well in linux,
and can preceed or follow guitarix in a signal chain,
or occupy separate tracks, to take advantages as one finds them.
I can load the Amplitube Fulltone collection, and send it to guitarix
for extra some extra modulations. I can also open
Reaper, or a second Reaper, with an empty audio track,
and route various standalone apps to that track, using qjackctl or
other linux patchbay. An easy way to integrate Hydrogen drum machine
in typical setups. Synths offer such wide arrays of sound,
that putting them in a MOD or similar workflow really eats away
at ones free time.
Cheers

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