I don't care one bit if you agree with me or not. Just stop being ignorant........fluffy_little_something wrote:Fluffy's Law Part 1: In every thread about synths, Tek will come along and tell everyone else they are wrong unless they agree with himTeksonik wrote:Tek's Law Part 2: In an thread about Synths the usual suspects will use undefinable terms like "Warm" and Cold" simply in an attempt to mask the fact that they haven't got a single clue.........
What is it about Sylenth1 ?
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It's most likely a digital synth anyway.fluffy_little_something wrote:Sounds good to me, but not warm, more digital and coolchk071 wrote:I'd think so too. Warm for me: Beefy, a bit of saturation, in general, full and plasant sounding. If you get a warm feeling in the stomach, then it's a warm sound.vurt wrote: im with you, in general chat warm and cold are fine to describe sound, we all know what the person means even if it cannot be quantified to an exact degree whereby you could describe a sound to tek and he could make it just from your description.Guess it has to do with the filter, with saturation/drive, also with oscillator drift. Don't know what else has a influence.
Already posted this elsewhere: The pad right at the beginning of this track sounds very "warm" to me.
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Ok what Frequency does "Warm" reside ? What Frequency is missing from "Cold" ?vurt wrote: im with you, in general chat warm and cold are fine to describe sound, we all know what the person means even if it cannot be quantified to an exact degree whereby you could describe a sound to tek and he could make it just from your description.
It's all just absolute rubbish. Just like Beefy or Punchy or Snappy or any other nonsense term.
Chat all you want but that doesn't give words real meaning.
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At the end of the day warmth mostly comes from the patch, the way it was programmed. From what I have heard of it, the Jupiter 8 could deliver both warm pads, but also cold, harsh leads for instance.
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It seems that nobody except for you has any problem with understanding the real meaning of these "nonsense terms".Teksonik wrote:Ok what Frequency does "Warm" reside ? What Frequency is missing from "Cold" ?vurt wrote: im with you, in general chat warm and cold are fine to describe sound, we all know what the person means even if it cannot be quantified to an exact degree whereby you could describe a sound to tek and he could make it just from your description.
It's all just absolute rubbish. Just like Beefy or Punchy or Snappy or any other nonsense term.
Chat all you want but that doesn't give words real meaning.
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Proof in Point. It's all subjective nonsense.recursive one wrote: It seems that nobody except for you has any problem with understanding the real meaning of these "nonsense terms".
chk071 wrote:The pad right at the beginning of this track sounds very "warm" to me.
fluffy_little_something wrote:Sounds good to me, but not warm, more digital and cool
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I get that the meaning of such terms can differ subjectively. It's just that i don't know any other terms which could explain sound. There are no terms to describe sound. I'd agree that many people gotta mean the same when they talk about "warm", though. It's just always a handful which seem to be totally floored, and mean something completely different with it.recursive one wrote:It seems that nobody except for you has any problem with understanding the real meaning of these "nonsense terms".Teksonik wrote:Ok what Frequency does "Warm" reside ? What Frequency is missing from "Cold" ?vurt wrote: im with you, in general chat warm and cold are fine to describe sound, we all know what the person means even if it cannot be quantified to an exact degree whereby you could describe a sound to tek and he could make it just from your description.
It's all just absolute rubbish. Just like Beefy or Punchy or Snappy or any other nonsense term.
Chat all you want but that doesn't give words real meaning.
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One reason I find that pad rather cool is that there is a lot of reverb.
I think in order for me to find a sound warm, it would have to have a certain sizzle. Just like with surfaces: smooth surfaces feel cooler than those with a rough surface. For instance bed sheets
Interestingly, I always found JMJ's music cold, probably because of the whole space thing. Still, it was made with analog synths.
I think in order for me to find a sound warm, it would have to have a certain sizzle. Just like with surfaces: smooth surfaces feel cooler than those with a rough surface. For instance bed sheets
Interestingly, I always found JMJ's music cold, probably because of the whole space thing. Still, it was made with analog synths.
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I'd assume that it is because his sounds are pretty sterile. Not much pitch modulation, and rather "robotic" sounding sounds. I fully agree, i always found his sounds and his music rather "cold".fluffy_little_something wrote: Interestingly, I always found JMJ's music cold, probably because of the whole space thing. Still, it was made with analog synths.
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as i said, for general chat, they give us an idea.Teksonik wrote:Ok what Frequency does "Warm" reside ? What Frequency is missing from "Cold" ?vurt wrote: im with you, in general chat warm and cold are fine to describe sound, we all know what the person means even if it cannot be quantified to an exact degree whereby you could describe a sound to tek and he could make it just from your description.
It's all just absolute rubbish. Just like Beefy or Punchy or Snappy or any other nonsense term.
Chat all you want but that doesn't give words real meaning.
occasionally some sounds will be described by different people in different ways. but it gives us a direction, a starting point if you will for a discussion.
are you saying if you where doing a mix for someone and they asked for the kick to be snappier and the whole drum kit to be punchier. you wouldn't know what they meant?
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I find the pads in this old song very warm and pleasant, from 45 secs on. I think it is all Jupiter 8...
