KVR Audio

5Lives · Post by **5Lives** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:30 pm

Too much, multiple times over. Cubase and Studio One specifically. Not that they aren’t very good - especially for certain use cases. But with recent innovations, I stick to Pro Tools and occasionally Logic. I have Ableton when I need a different way of working to spark some creativity, though Maschine solves that in a similar way too these days.

Eauson · Post by **Eauson** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:30 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
low_low wrote:
chk071 wrote:Threads like these are somehow comforting. I always realize that i'm by far not as a bad case as i thought.
I thought something similar until I realized that if the title was "How much money have you wasted buying VSTs you should have demoed ?" I wouldn't have the same feeling.

I should get into programming VSTs, there seem to be a market for musicians suffering from GAS... Would you buy my VST if I named it GAS-Diet? And promise of at least the functionality of this plug-in?
Or do you think its better to found a GA group "GAS anonymous unlimited" and offer workshops...

By the way I don't regret to pay 1$ a month to the Ardour programmers...
If you look at the price of software not being a price for a good, but a support for the programmers, you simply do not have that idea of wasted money, it feels much better...

Yes, certain Patreon person springs to mind, although not a daw, more a gateway into good listenings

rlared · Post by **rlared** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:03 pm

Honestly I just love trying new things and learning. Many I buy and sell on KVR so it's not a huge loss. I have probably spent like $1500 over the last 10 years on DAWs so honestly that's not bad for all of the entertainment. Of course I have completed like zero songs hehe

Studio One (multiple times)
Reaper (multiple times)
FL Studio
Reason 10
Sonar Platinum
Just traded Falcon for Cubase

Protocol_b · Post by **Protocol_b** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:23 pm

Hundreds on Live and ALK. Foolish - it honestly never occurred to me that a DAW would limit you to channel 1 only - I mean WTH? So I tested some of the functions I wanted without realizing I could not extrapolate those over a full range of big-boy channels. Derp.

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:24 pm

zero.
I can't really count my purchase of Project 5 a couple years before it was discontinued. but as a Sonar/Cakewalk by Bandlab person since Sonar 7, I've been pretty happy & haven't felt the need to buy other DAWs.

Maschine isn't technically a DAW, and even though I got suckered into buying the Jam with NI's monstrous bait & switch (Song Layer coming soon!), I don't regret being a Maschine user

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:27 pm

Surprisingly little as I demo the blaggards to death.. The highest I ever paid for a DAW I believe was £90 for Podium back in 2007. A super elegant DAW but ultimately missing features I late relied upon in Reaper.

Artie Fichelle · Post by **Artie Fichelle** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:52 pm

Alot in the last 32 years. I started with software in 1986 and I used one of the very first sequencers. Too bad, it couldn´t do triplets. Since then, I have spent alot on music software and I have many DAWs I don´t even use. I mostly use Logic, having started with C-Lab.
Today I am interested in different tunings and in 432Hz. I think equal tuning is a bad choice and sounds no good. I am also into negative harmonies, actually all the stuff that has no chance of beeing commercial. Also Jazz, even whne it smells bad (F. Zappa) I also love great voices, what a gift if you have one.

low_low · Post by **low_low** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:27 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:If you look at the price of software not being a price for a good, but a support for the programmers, you simply do not have that idea of wasted money, it feels much better...

That's how I see it generally, like my share of the money it takes to feed and house programmers while they build something for us ... that's part of what ticks me off so much about software pirates, because I also feel like they're stealing food from someone else's table, no different than if we were all building a house together and some a-hole wanted to sit at the picnic table and sip tea but still expected to live in it.

rlared · Post by **rlared** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:41 pm

low_low wrote:
Tj Shredder wrote:If you look at the price of software not being a price for a good, but a support for the programmers, you simply do not have that idea of wasted money, it feels much better...
That's how I see it generally, like my share of the money it takes to feed and house programmers while they build something for us ... that's part of what ticks me off so much about software pirates, because I also feel like they're stealing food from someone else's table, no different than if we were all building a house together and some a-hole wanted to sit at the picnic table and sip tea but still expected to live in it.

Software pirating is definitely stealing ... No doubt about it. Should be prosecuted just like stealing money from someone.

mitchiemasha · Post by **mitchiemasha** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:39 pm

ZERO...

sleepcircle · Post by **sleepcircle** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:56 pm

bought one DAW and have kept using it usque in praesens tempus

i DO regret buying a couple plugins, but it couldn't have been avoided because i was just starting out and my ears weren't sensitive enough to pick up the problems with them.

Resonant- Serpent · Post by **Resonant- Serpent** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:05 pm

I just wasted money upgrading Studio One 3 to 4. Didn't know they had dropped the 32 bit version, and nothing on the product page states that they've done this. Left a really bad taste.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Not to stick my beak in but it says that pretty clearly on the tech spec page.
https://www.presonus.com/products/Studio-One/tech-specs

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:14 pm

None.

Boring post is boring.

mgiambro · Post by **mgiambro** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:19 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. On reflection, calling it wasted money is a bit harsh. Like some posters have said, you gain experience with these products and I have done work with all of them. Also, I've blown a lot more money on a heavy night out in the past - that's waste!

How much money have you wasted buying DAWS you should have demoed properly?