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bungle wrote:Where was it stated that Reaper 6 would be out in a year ?
I have never known them to announce any time frame on anything, in fact if i remember correctly the beta for 5 was about 18 months or something.
And why exactly are you waiting for 6 ?
Are you trying to maximise your buying potential by waiting for 6, thinking that you are getting more time with a licence ?
Stop kidding yourself and buy it now or just use it on the trial, you obviously aren't really serious about your music making so it is doubtful the developers would have an issue with you using the free trial until you are.
The reason that I wanted to buy REAPER 6.0 is that it was, at the time, able to do one thing that REAPER 0.999 and all my other freeware tools could not do and that is to batch edit 20,000 MIDI items. But before that, I've been doing most of my music-making in Anvil Studio and REAPER 0.999. I won't be doing anymore batch MIDI editing soon because the new REAPER already did that and I have enough edited MIDI material to last me a while.

The reason I am waiting for REAPER 6.0 is that I would get 200 updates if I do that.
If I buy current REAPER at version 5.94, I would only get 106 updates.
I have never bought anything via the internet. I'm making an exception for REAPER in the name of sheer gratefulness.

I will never buy anything anymore via the internet after I buy REAPER 6.0. I need to have the maximum updates I can get because I won't buy REAPER again.
I'm always on a tight budget and penny-pinching is the only way to go for me.

So yeah, I'm just grateful that the new REAPER did the job. But I don't need new REAPER that soon. I can wait 18 months or more. But if it arrives soon, I'll buy it and make REAPER my DAW for life and I probably won't need Anvil Studio and Podium Free and REAPER 0.999 anymore. Until then, REAPER 0.999 and Anvil Studio and Podium Free, will be my main music-making tools, as they were before, as they are now.

Regarding that other matter, I think you are right. I'm not "that" serious about my music-making. If I am "that" serious, I would quit speed scrabble. But there have been times I did quit speed scrabble and just focused on trying to make "unsucky" songs. I was half-serious about music-making just like I was half-serious about speed scrabble.

But I always reverted back to being a speed scrabble player. I couldn't stay away from playing speed scrabble for longer than 6 months (estimate). But I noticed that right now, I'm spending less time at speed scrabble again. I may quit speed scrabble for good this time and not just for 6 months (estimate), and instead focus on nothing but getting "that" serious about music-making.

But, I have to find a "satisfactory music-making method" first before I become "that" serious. There's no point being prolific with an "unsatisfactory music-making method".
That would be insane and would fit Einstein's definition of that word.

Some internet articles stated that Einstein never was the source of that famous saying. I forget the exact saying and I'm to lazy to Google it now but it's something like "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over even if the result is not improving."

But even if Einstein never stated such a statement, I still think that the statement is true and I do my best not to stick to an "unsatisfactory music-making method" by always trying out new methods. It feels much less insane. So much less, that it nearly isn't.

Oh my dog. I think I'm going insane. I have this feeling of deja vu of a deja vu.
One time, I was in a dream and in that dream I was waking up and I did wake up but I wasn't sure I wasn't still dreaming, I half-thought I was just waking up in the dream. Holey moley.

Another time, I was in a dream where the living room was shrinking. I woke up in a panic and as I opened my eyes I found myself staring at the ceiling and the living room was still shrinking. There were people in the living room during all that and later on they would tell me that I was shouting "Get out, get out! The room is shrinking, we are all going to be crushed to death!!!"

It's hard to sleep but when sleep finally comes, dreams like that happens to me, and I'm like "I don't want to sleep." What if in one dream, I have a heart attack? I would be panicking in the dream and that could cause a real heart attack and I will die without waking up? Yeah 'cause it's impossible to wake up dead? But what if I wake up and look up and this guy with a goatee in a red spandex is grinning at me and Elvis (not Costello) is actually singing "A Hunka Hunka Burning Love"? Holey moley.

If that's the case then I probably wouldn't bother being a penny-pincher anymore because my heating bill will be nonexistent 365/24/7. Big, big savings. Anyways, since I don't hear Elvis, and reality is still real, I really really really have to go to what some of the Brits call the loo, right now. And after that, I have to be brave and try to sleep. I'm getting dizzy. Okay then, goodnight.
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harryupbabble wrote: The reason that I wanted to buy REAPER 6.0 is that it was, at the time, able to do one thing that REAPER 0.999 and all my other freeware tools could not do and that is to batch edit 20,000 MIDI items. But before that, I've been doing most of my music-making in Anvil Studio and REAPER 0.999. I won't be doing anymore batch MIDI editing soon because the new REAPER already did that and I have enough edited MIDI material to last me a while.

The reason I am waiting for REAPER 6.0 is that I would get 200 updates if I do that.
If I buy current REAPER at version 5.94, I would only get 106 updates.
I have never bought anything via the internet. I'm making an exception for REAPER in the name of sheer gratefulness.

I will never buy anything anymore via the internet after I buy REAPER 6.0. I need to have the maximum updates I can get because I won't buy REAPER again.
I'm always on a tight budget and penny-pinching is the only way to go for me.

So yeah, I'm just grateful that the new REAPER did the job. But I don't need new REAPER that soon. I can wait 18 months or more. But if it arrives soon, I'll buy it and make REAPER my DAW for life and I probably won't need Anvil Studio and Podium Free and REAPER 0.999 anymore. Until then, REAPER 0.999 and Anvil Studio and Podium Free, will be my main music-making tools, as they were before, as they are now.

Regarding that other matter, I think you are right. I'm not "that" serious about my music-making. If I am "that" serious, I would quit speed scrabble. But there have been times I did quit speed scrabble and just focused on trying to make "unsucky" songs. I was half-serious about music-making just like I was half-serious about speed scrabble.

But I always reverted back to being a speed scrabble player. I couldn't stay away from playing speed scrabble for longer than 6 months (estimate). But I noticed that right now, I'm spending less time at speed scrabble again. I may quit speed scrabble for good this time and not just for 6 months (estimate), and instead focus on nothing but getting "that" serious about music-making.

But, I have to find a "satisfactory music-making method" first before I become "that" serious. There's no point being prolific with an "unsatisfactory music-making method".
That would be insane and would fit Einstein's definition of that word.

Some internet articles stated that Einstein never was the source of that famous saying. I forget the exact saying and I'm to lazy to Google it now but it's something like "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over even if the result is not improving."

But even if Einstein never stated such a statement, I still think that the statement is true and I do my best not to stick to an "unsatisfactory music-making method" by always trying out new methods. It feels much less insane. So much less, that it nearly isn't.

Oh my dog. I think I'm going insane. I have this feeling of deja vu of a deja vu.
One time, I was in a dream and in that dream I was waking up and I did wake up but I wasn't sure I wasn't still dreaming, I half-thought I was just waking up in the dream. Holey moley.

Another time, I was in a dream where the living room was shrinking. I woke up in a panic and as I opened my eyes I found myself staring at the ceiling and the living room was still shrinking. There were people in the living room during all that and later on they would tell me that I was shouting "Get out, get out! The room is shrinking, we are all going to be crushed to death!!!"

It's hard to sleep but when sleep finally comes, dreams like that happens to me, and I'm like "I don't want to sleep." What if in one dream, I have a heart attack? I would be panicking in the dream and that could cause a real heart attack and I will die without waking up? Yeah 'cause it's impossible to wake up dead? But what if I wake up and look up and this guy with a goatee in a red spandex is grinning at me and Elvis (not Costello) is actually singing "A Hunka Hunka Burning Love"? Holey moley.

If that's the case then I probably wouldn't bother being a penny-pincher anymore because my heating bill will be nonexistent 365/24/7. Big, big savings. Anyways, since I don't hear Elvis, and reality is still real, I really really really have to go to what some of the Brits call the loo, right now. And after that, I have to be brave and try to sleep. I'm getting dizzy. Okay then, goodnight.
Good post, possibly my favourite one from you so far.

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harryupbabble wrote: ... that is to batch edit 20,000 MIDI items. But before that, I've been doing most of my music-making in Anvil Studio and REAPER 0.999. I won't be doing anymore batch MIDI editing soon because the new REAPER already did that and I have enough edited MIDI material to last me a while.
Yes, sure, 20,000 Midi items!
harryupbabble wrote: The reason I am waiting for REAPER 6.0 is that I would get 200 updates if I do that.
Yeah, but I'd rather think of 20,000 updates!
harryupbabble wrote: Some internet articles stated that Einstein never was the source of that famous saying. I forget the exact saying and ...
Einstein said "E=mc^2"
Your formula - ok, it's not a formula - your number is "20,000"! :tu:
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You are fooling yourself, Harry.

If you can stick with Reaper 0.999 and BabyaLogic, you also will do fine with the current Reaper and the dozens of updates yet to come.

What feature of Reaper 6 are you waiting for? I tell you: you are clueless. v7? Even less of an idea. Bug fixes? Stumbled upon one showstopper in v0.999?

So I'm sure updates is not what you really really want. Apps on my phone update themselves all the time, and either I cannot tell the difference, or it's annoying as hell.

You want peace of mind, using legit stuff. You know what to do...
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This is somebodies duplicate troll account right ?
Buy 6 to get 200 updates ?
Speed Scrabble ?
Shrinking living rooms ?
Duh

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woggle wrote: Good post, possibly my favourite one from you so far.
It's easily mine. I can't stop thinking about speed scrabble now.
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enroe wrote: Einstein said "E=mc^2"
Your formula - ok, it's not a formula - your number is "20,000"! :tu:
My formula is:

deeper well = more time till well dries up :D
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harryupbabble wrote:20,000 MIDI items. I won't be doing anymore batch MIDI editing soon because the new REAPER already did that and I have enough edited MIDI material to last me a while.
What if they're all basically the same one bar? Yes, this is reductio ad absurdum, but what if more is not always more.

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BertKoor wrote:You are fooling yourself, Harry.

If you can stick with Reaper 0.999 and BabyaLogic, you also will do fine with the current Reaper and the dozens of updates yet to come.

What feature of Reaper 6 are you waiting for? I tell you: you are clueless. v7? Even less of an idea. Bug fixes? Stumbled upon one showstopper in v0.999?

So I'm sure updates is not what you really really want. Apps on my phone update themselves all the time, and either I cannot tell the difference, or it's annoying as hell.

You want peace of mind, using legit stuff. You know what to do...
The reason updates is important to me is... super-important updates could happen at any time? For example, was Lua scripting a minor update or was it included in a major upgrade? By that I mean was Lua scripting included in version 5.0 or version 4.0 or whatever point zero version? Or was it included in some minor update like, for example, version 3.73? Evil Dragon mentioned that export/import of configuration files became possible on version 3.73.

Lately, I have discovered a Lua script that randomizes MIDI notes. All of a sudden, Lua scripting has become super-important to me. Pretend Lua scripting was never added to an earlier version of REAPER and would only be later added to REAPER version 7.12.

So If I buy REAPER now at version 5.94, I would never get that 7.12 update because buying REAPER 5.94 is EXACTLY like buying REAPER at version 5.00 and that entitles me updates ONLY up to version 6.99.

But if I wait for REAPER 6.0 I would get that 7.12 update because buying REAPER at 6.0 entitles me updates all the way to REAPER 7.99.

Did Justin programmed REAPER for a nag screen that pops up stating something like "You cannot apply that update, your REAPER version does not entitle you to that update. You must upgrade to a point zero version."? I figure that that second nag screen would eventually pop up because what's the point of that 60-day nag screen that always popped up?

Those nag screens (if the second nag screen does exist) are there to remind people that they have a conscience? If one doesn't have a conscience then of course none of the nag screens apply to you.

Yup, I think that if Justin didn't really mind people using REAPER beyond the 60-day trial then he wouldn't even bother having that nag screen pop up every time and he wouldn't state at the REAPER forum that, and I paraphrase, "No! Don't do that. It isn't nice to do that."

On the other hand, maybe Justin meant ""No! Don't do that. It isn't nice to do that FOREVER but it's okay to do that if you are going to buy REAPER 6.0 anyways." But I don't think that's what he meant because:
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jancivil wrote:
harryupbabble wrote:20,000 MIDI items. I won't be doing anymore batch MIDI editing soon because the new REAPER already did that and I have enough edited MIDI material to last me a while.
What if they're all basically the same one bar? Yes, this is reductio ad absurdum, but what if more is not always more.
The 20,000 drum patterns have no duplicates. I used an ancient software named Lupas Renamer. It renames the files via crc32 hash. It will refuse to rename duplicates. So I just delete the files that were refused and/or not renamed.

So far, with my testings, the drum patterns sound distinct to me. I'm pretty happy.

Besides, the files have different file sizes. If two drum patterns sound the same to my ears, I could check the file size of the two files to confirm what my ears hears. And if the two files do sound so very much alike... I will simply delete one of them.
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bungle wrote:This is somebodies duplicate troll account right ?
Buy 6 to get 200 updates ?
Speed Scrabble ?
Shrinking living rooms ?
I'm no troll. The mods will know that this is the only account I have here at KVR. I don't see the point of being a troll. It's dangerous to be a troll? There are people that can be offended by trolls so much that they decide to do something about it.

Also, on Google News I read of a crazy individual who flew half away around the world to stalk some girl and luckily the girl's mom owned a gun and shot at the crazy individual who was trying to forcefully enter the house. It made me rethink the gun control debate.

Just last week, our community mail box was broken into. I immediately thought "damn meth-heads". Now, I am thinking desperate meth-heads might be anyone of our neighbours and if breaking into community mailboxes is that easy, how easy is it for meth-heads to break into houses with a crow bar? Home invasions happen all the time? And it's usually meth-heads doing the invasions?
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@ BertKoor

Another reason I want to buy REAPER is that in the future I may be making "better" videos to upload to YouTube. Heck, I may even actually sign up for that YouTube Partnership deal or whatever it is called and generate myself some income. And some of those videos may just be of solutions to problems I have encountered in REAPER.

And maybe other videos will be of actual songs I have created with a hopefully "Satisfactory Music-making Method" and the REAPER GUI will be displayed in those videos. Buying a license lets one display one's online name on the the top left side of the REAPER GUI (Graphical User Interface).




@ woggle and do_androids_dream

That's a surprise. I never thought anyone would think any of my posts as being good. It's probably full of grammatical errors and faulty sequencing and/or bad flow and who knows what else. I've been told before "Dude, you are bastardising the English language to death". And I tell them "Oh yeah? How many languages do you know? Let's see you post at new-to-you non-English forums." But yeah, English is an enjoyable posting language. Me likes it very much. But the Brits and Brit-ish have the most advantage.

Anyways #1, thanks for stating that it's a good post, you couple of people. Anyways #2, I gotta do something else now. Too much posting for me today. Okay bye, y'all.
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harryupbabble wrote:
... and that is to batch edit 20,000 MIDI items.
I see your benefits, yes. I also would suggest to have
20,000 independent installations of reaper. And I
would suggest to load 20,000 fx inserts into one
track!

Woooah, this is indeed a numbering magic with 20,000!
:)
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harryupbabble wrote:So If I buy REAPER now at version 5.94, I would never get that 7.12 update because buying REAPER 5.94 is EXACTLY like buying REAPER at version 5.00 and that entitles me updates ONLY up to version 6.99.

But if I wait for REAPER 6.0 I would get that 7.12 update because buying REAPER at 6.0 entitles me updates all the way to REAPER 7.99.
Yeah I'd definitely wait - Version 7.12 is gonna be incredible. Apparently you'll be able to batch edit 43,000 midi clips at once - Each clip comes with its own separate installer.

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I can't believe you sargasmic dudes resurrected this "solved" thread of mine. I've abandoned that "Multiple Portable Installations" solution and instead I will use the "export/import configuration files" solution. I have moved on.

But to address your sargasm, I probably won't need REAPER 7.12 to batch edit 43,000 MIDI items. REAPER 5.9x can batch edit 20,000 MIDI items in about 12 minutes on my not super-fast Windows 7 computer. Guenon can do it in 6 seconds on his Cray Supercomputer.

I am guessing that REAPER versions older than 5.94 has always been capable of doing the job. I just didn't know how to configure version 5.9x to do it. I still don't. I don't understand Evil Dragon's solution, nor Guenon's solution. But their solutions work. Who knows, maybe REAPER 3.73 could do the job too. But I'm almost 100 percent sure that REAPER 0.999 can't do the job.

If you sargasmic dudes want to keep this thread going forever, bless you. :) :lol:

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