KVR Audio

dirtrobot · Post by **dirtrobot** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:53 pm

Hi,
I'm currently working in FL Studio and depending on the synth I get anywhere from 22 to 224 samples of silence inserted when rendering to wav audio (bouncing).

Is this how it works in all DAWs? Oh and to note, the amount of latency on my audio device doesn't really seem to impact this.

Thanks!

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:43 am

No.

I bounce incessantly, I work in the audio editor and typically commit right away and bounce/replace. In Cubase or Nuendo, it is 100% reliable.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:26 am

dirtrobot wrote:Hi,
I'm currently working in FL Studio and depending on the synth I get anywhere from 22 to 224 samples of silence inserted when rendering to wav audio (bouncing).

Is this how it works in all DAWs? Oh and to note, the amount of latency on my audio device doesn't really seem to impact this.

Thanks!

PDC should be taking care of this. Does FL has it? In the version that you use?

dirtrobot · Post by **dirtrobot** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:31 pm

It does at least on the mixer. I'm not entirely sure it can compensate to soft synth delay? I'm on 20.0.2 atm

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:41 pm

Look for something in preferences or settings like 'ASIO latency compensation by default'...

groovyomega · Post by **groovyomega** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:45 am

Besides PDC there are a few virtual instruments as well as effects that aren't sample accurate. So it could be possible that it is quite normal to have up to 3ms of latency and time shifts due to the plug-in architecture. The audio data is transferred to the DAW depending on the buffer size / samples - so that it does not match the musical grid always.

Would you mind telling us which instruments are causing sample inaccurate timing?

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:49 am

If a synth has a free running oscillator - it can be random when you see a waveform.

I saw this a lot, trying to calibrate external gear in particular, and come to think of this fact of life. Those vary a lot as well in how long they take to respond - anything from 100 samples to 400 samples.

Just another idea compared to what is mentioned....do many tests with same synth and have a look if identical each time.

sleepcircle · Post by **sleepcircle** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:57 am

i think most people have made it clear enough that this is unusual but i will chime in and say it doesn't happen to me either

[Any DAW] : Does bouncing / rendering VST instrument synths always introduce a bit of silence