General questions on Reaper

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Delta Sign
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489 posts since 22 Jun, 2018

Post Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:57 am

Those numbers taste like pie to me.

I'll show myself out.

ghettosynth
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11245 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:21 pm

Delta Sign wrote:Those numbers taste like pie to me.
There's something missing though, I can't quite put my finger on it.

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Chris-S
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2604 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:43 am

digitalboytn wrote:Like someone else said,check out Kenny Gioia's videos...
The Reaper Blog is very good also:

https://www.youtube.com/user/audiogeekzine/videos

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fluffy_little_something
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12234 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:24 am

Why are synths considered FX? 8)

enroe
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817 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:Why are synths considered FX? 8)
Haayeah, that might be confusing. :)

Reaper is the DAW of abstraction. Because in Reaper
every term gets "abstracted".

So a track is always both: An audio-track and a midi-track.
An item can be both: An audio-Item and a midi-Item.
The same with FX: Everything that can be inserted in
a track or into an item is just "FX".

So "FX" can be VST, VSTi (which are synthesizers or
samplers), JS, DX, ...

So also synthesizer are summed up to the generalized
term "FX". "FX" doesn't mean only "effect". Instead it
is an abstract name for anything that can be inserted.
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fluffy_little_something
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12234 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:15 am

Weird, well, I will get used to it :hihi:

chk071
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Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:20 am

enroe wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Why are synths considered FX? 8)
Haayeah, that might be confusing. :)

Reaper is the DAW of abstraction. Because in Reaper
every term gets "abstracted".

So a track is always both: An audio-track and a midi-track.
An item can be both: An audio-Item and a midi-Item.
The same with FX: Everything that can be inserted in
a track or into an item is just "FX".

So "FX" can be VST, VSTi (which are synthesizers or
samplers), JS, DX, ...

So also synthesizer are summed up to the generalized
term "FX". "FX" doesn't mean only "effect". Instead it
is an abstract name for anything that can be inserted.
I really don't want to rant about Reaper, but... this is rather typical. Instead of going with well defined terms, Reaper is "abstracting". Makes switching to, or migrating from the DAW really difficult. Developers should really consider that, when changing, or mish-mash-ing terms, which have a specific meaning.

swatwork
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287 posts since 12 Jul, 2006

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:19 am

chk071 wrote:I really don't want to rant about Reaper, but... this is rather typical. Instead of going with well defined terms, Reaper is "abstracting". Makes switching to, or migrating from the DAW really difficult. Developers should really consider that, when changing, or mish-mash-ing terms, which have a specific meaning.
It's really not that complicated...
reaper_instruments.png
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BMoore
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1537 posts since 19 Aug, 2011

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:25 am

swatwork wrote:
chk071 wrote:I really don't want to rant about Reaper, but... this is rather typical. Instead of going with well defined terms, Reaper is "abstracting". Makes switching to, or migrating from the DAW really difficult. Developers should really consider that, when changing, or mish-mash-ing terms, which have a specific meaning.
It's really not that complicated...
reaper_instruments.png
Yeah. But no one uses that menu, unless you’re a noob.
Everything else is referred to as «fx».
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fluffy_little_something
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12234 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:55 am

Actually, I do use that menu in order to add new tracks.

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eluherlu
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38 posts since 13 Aug, 2017

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:26 pm

The best thing of Reaper is its customization.. It makes me want to build my 'own' daw. I even started to think what if I learn about software development. But it's all too late anyway :hihi:

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Rockatansky
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252 posts since 3 Jun, 2017

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:03 pm

chk071 wrote:I really don't want to rant about Reaper, but... this is rather typical. Instead of going with well defined terms, Reaper is "abstracting". Makes switching to, or migrating from the DAW really difficult. Developers should really consider that, when changing, or mish-mash-ing terms, which have a specific meaning.
It's the thing I love most about Reaper. I don't have to get lost in specifics. I need a new track, I add a new track. Who cares what it's for. I can use it to record audio and copy the recorded audio items to other tracks, I can use it to do the same with MIDI, I can use it to store text items... call my workflow messy if you must, but I'd rather have one track that does it all, instead of 25 tracks that all do something super specific. And if I want to use the track for something else for a few minutes, I don't have to replace it or add new tracks temporarily. Instrument hosting track, MIDI track, AUX track, folder track, send track, return track, automation track, who the hell has time to think about all those things when you're in a creative mood. Just add a darn track and be done with it. I truly have a hard time understanding why just about any other DAW software would insist on such unnecessary overcomplication. Or why any user would want to distract their creativity with track type handling.
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Rockatansky
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252 posts since 3 Jun, 2017

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:09 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Actually, I do use that menu in order to add new tracks.
Add new empty track: double-click the empty area in the arranger track list. (The dark part on the left, under "2. here" in the screenshot)

Add a new track with an instrument, MIDI routing and recording automatically enabled:
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99 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:43 am

swatwork wrote:
chk071 wrote:I really don't want to rant about Reaper, but... this is rather typical. Instead of going with well defined terms, Reaper is "abstracting". Makes switching to, or migrating from the DAW really difficult. Developers should really consider that, when changing, or mish-mash-ing terms, which have a specific meaning.
It's really not that complicated...
reaper_instruments.png
Actually this complicates it further, because in one place (this menu), a VST instrument is referred to as a "virtual instrument", but everywhere else it's still called "FX". So now there's a lack of consistency, in addition to the "abstraction" :) For consistency, this menu item should be called "Insert FX on new track", but that would be even more confusing...

swatwork
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287 posts since 12 Jul, 2006

Re: General questions on Reaper

Post Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:57 am

AdvancedFollower wrote:Actually this complicates it further, because in one place (this menu), a VST instrument is referred to as a "virtual instrument", but everywhere else it's still called "FX". So now there's a lack of consistency, in addition to the "abstraction" :) For consistency, this menu item should be called "Insert FX on new track", but that would be even more confusing...
It's not inconsistent at all - this menu option does exactly what it says, insert a virtual instrument. It's specifically dealing with the instrument subset of the available 'FX'.

I guess I don't find this 'FX' thing confusing because I just think 'plugin' when I see it. It might be a little odd at first but I don't think it takes too long to get used to.

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