The linux DAW thread
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Exactly! This one of my favorite inspiration songs,
and I don't see Cubase, Ubuntu, vsts, or any OS
in the crowd. Just somebody recording it all...
https://youtu.be/G2hXYryCUBE
Cheers
and I don't see Cubase, Ubuntu, vsts, or any OS
in the crowd. Just somebody recording it all...
https://youtu.be/G2hXYryCUBE
Cheers
- KVRist
- 275 posts since 24 Feb, 2015
Thanks you guys for some awesome news and links and topics and jokes and config supports and VST(i)'s too.
I'm also encouraged by the stuff you guys have mentioned. And yep, although I didn't know about the Apple USB stuff until one of you mentioned it, USB Class Compliant MIDI devices *usually* work just fine in Linux--it's a big relief.
However, I did have a USB snafu once with some gear that used to work fine. I sold the gear that worked fine and later tried to rebuy the same model months later. Unfortunately for me, the manufacturer had improved the physical design but possibly made the firmware part less reliable because I couldn't get part of I/O to work correctly. I contacted technical suppport and they told me to just use analog output instead of digital output. I did do that already, and that's how I got tunes done, but that wasn't ideal.
I also searched for other issue sources and maybe it was a problem from my computer's hardware configuration. But it never got fixed and I didn't have the problem with nearly identical gear the previous time. Also, I didn't have the chance to test the gear on somebody else's computer and DAW. But every other time in every other year for several years (that's multiple, multiple times) USB Class Compliant works absolutely fine as long as you know what the device name is, and that's easy enough if you have Patachage, for example. Just run patchage and look at the screen to see what's plugged in and what the hardware is called.
But for peace of mind, my situation I'm pretty sure was rare and like I said, it could've been my computer's hardware, the USB section in particular. Luckily, the analog output was high-quality and low-noise enough that it almost didn't matter. But I won't be purchasing that particular piece of gear again, just in case.
More recently I bought some gear that was analog only, and the sound quality was even better and the cost MUCH lower, so it all worked out in the end. I successfully made several more tunes on the low-budget good sounding gear and gained new respect for another audio gear manufacturer. I'm deliberately leaving out the names of the companies and the gear because, as they say, YMMV ("your mileage may vary").
I'm also encouraged by the stuff you guys have mentioned. And yep, although I didn't know about the Apple USB stuff until one of you mentioned it, USB Class Compliant MIDI devices *usually* work just fine in Linux--it's a big relief.
However, I did have a USB snafu once with some gear that used to work fine. I sold the gear that worked fine and later tried to rebuy the same model months later. Unfortunately for me, the manufacturer had improved the physical design but possibly made the firmware part less reliable because I couldn't get part of I/O to work correctly. I contacted technical suppport and they told me to just use analog output instead of digital output. I did do that already, and that's how I got tunes done, but that wasn't ideal.
I also searched for other issue sources and maybe it was a problem from my computer's hardware configuration. But it never got fixed and I didn't have the problem with nearly identical gear the previous time. Also, I didn't have the chance to test the gear on somebody else's computer and DAW. But every other time in every other year for several years (that's multiple, multiple times) USB Class Compliant works absolutely fine as long as you know what the device name is, and that's easy enough if you have Patachage, for example. Just run patchage and look at the screen to see what's plugged in and what the hardware is called.
But for peace of mind, my situation I'm pretty sure was rare and like I said, it could've been my computer's hardware, the USB section in particular. Luckily, the analog output was high-quality and low-noise enough that it almost didn't matter. But I won't be purchasing that particular piece of gear again, just in case.
More recently I bought some gear that was analog only, and the sound quality was even better and the cost MUCH lower, so it all worked out in the end. I successfully made several more tunes on the low-budget good sounding gear and gained new respect for another audio gear manufacturer. I'm deliberately leaving out the names of the companies and the gear because, as they say, YMMV ("your mileage may vary").
Download & play soothing music: https://soundcloud.com/wait_codec
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Hi, everybody at kvr knows mileage will vary, tires go flat,
headgaskets leak, DEQ test fails
But knowing names can guide people in their many quests,
someone might think, hey, I've got one of those,
and try something new.
Glad you're cranking out the tunes
Cheers
headgaskets leak, DEQ test fails
But knowing names can guide people in their many quests,
someone might think, hey, I've got one of those,
and try something new.
Glad you're cranking out the tunes
Cheers
- KVRAF
- 2184 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa
Well, I've downloaded and set up Ubuntu Studio, just to see what's available in it. I know it's not necessarily the "best" Linux distro for a DAW, or the one with the most features, but I'm really just interested in see what it can offer in general.
My biggest concern is the audio interface, though. I have an old (but still working) E-MU 0404 PCIe interface. Do you know of any drivers for this, @glokraw? I've asked on Gearslutz, and I can't get a straight answer. E-MU is gone, and they didn't have Linux drivers, anyway. I haven't tried to just install the card (and hope for the best), since it'll require crawling around under a desk, and I'd rather not do that until I can be reasonably sure the interface will work.
You've forgotten more stuff about Linux DAWs and VSTis than most people know, @glokraw, so if anyone knows about PCIe drivers for the E-MU hardware, I'm hoping it's you!
Steve
My biggest concern is the audio interface, though. I have an old (but still working) E-MU 0404 PCIe interface. Do you know of any drivers for this, @glokraw? I've asked on Gearslutz, and I can't get a straight answer. E-MU is gone, and they didn't have Linux drivers, anyway. I haven't tried to just install the card (and hope for the best), since it'll require crawling around under a desk, and I'd rather not do that until I can be reasonably sure the interface will work.
You've forgotten more stuff about Linux DAWs and VSTis than most people know, @glokraw, so if anyone knows about PCIe drivers for the E-MU hardware, I'm hoping it's you!
Steve
Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I'm pretty sure the e-mu 0404 and several other of their models
are already included in the standard alsa kernel modules,
and there is an alsa-firmware package that should be installed
from your current repository, using the synaptic package manager,
so you shouldn't need anything else,
just the standard i/o connections info, detailed nicely in the tutorial over at
https://libremusicproduction.com/articl ... arted-jack
You'll also want to install the kx-studio repositories, requires
several cut/paste trips to the terminal, details in the second section here:
http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
KX, the ongoing work of falkTX, provides the latest audio software
for debian/ubuntu users.
The terminal command
sudo lsmod
will prompt you for your password, and then
list the kernel modules found in your linux,
snd-emu10k is the one for e-mu cards
This is an official e-mu on linux page:
https://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1
Be careful of static electricity when doing the
physical install, a humid un-carpeted area is good luck,
I put a big copper-bottomed pot nearby, to discharge
my fingertips as I go.
Let us know how it's going!
Oh, youtube has videos of using synaptic package manager,
if it's a new thing for you. And also videos of qjackctl, a linux
audio patchbay and configuration gui, that will be
covered in the libremusicproduction tutorial linked above.
Cheers
are already included in the standard alsa kernel modules,
and there is an alsa-firmware package that should be installed
from your current repository, using the synaptic package manager,
so you shouldn't need anything else,
just the standard i/o connections info, detailed nicely in the tutorial over at
https://libremusicproduction.com/articl ... arted-jack
You'll also want to install the kx-studio repositories, requires
several cut/paste trips to the terminal, details in the second section here:
http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
KX, the ongoing work of falkTX, provides the latest audio software
for debian/ubuntu users.
The terminal command
sudo lsmod
will prompt you for your password, and then
list the kernel modules found in your linux,
snd-emu10k is the one for e-mu cards
This is an official e-mu on linux page:
https://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1
Be careful of static electricity when doing the
physical install, a humid un-carpeted area is good luck,
I put a big copper-bottomed pot nearby, to discharge
my fingertips as I go.
Let us know how it's going!
Oh, youtube has videos of using synaptic package manager,
if it's a new thing for you. And also videos of qjackctl, a linux
audio patchbay and configuration gui, that will be
covered in the libremusicproduction tutorial linked above.
Cheers
Last edited by glokraw on Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Got my main computer out of the shop,
and added a linux to the nice win7 AMD computer a friend gave me,
and finished some overdue triplicate backups,
to be stored off-site...too many thieves on my side of the tracks
and earthquake, fire, flood, or power-surges all could cause
almost as much damage as I would do just being clumsy,
from too many late nights working with Bazille or Zebra
Time to play a lullaby...
and added a linux to the nice win7 AMD computer a friend gave me,
and finished some overdue triplicate backups,
to be stored off-site...too many thieves on my side of the tracks
and earthquake, fire, flood, or power-surges all could cause
almost as much damage as I would do just being clumsy,
from too many late nights working with Bazille or Zebra
Time to play a lullaby...
- KVRAF
- 2184 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa
Thanks for all the info! I know how to install several things in Linux, but thanks for the refresher. I'll see if I can get this up and running by the weekend.glokraw wrote:I'm pretty sure the e-mu 0404 and several other of their models
are already included in the standard alsa kernel modules,
and there is an alsa-firmware package that should be installed
from your current repository, using the synaptic package manager,
so you shouldn't need anything else,
just the standard i/o connections info, detailed nicely in the tutorial over at
[SNIP]
Oh, youtube has videos of using synaptic package manager,
if it's a new thing for you. And also videos of qjackctl, a linux
audio patchbay and configuration gui, that will be
covered in the libremusicproduction tutorial linked above.
Cheers
Cheers!
Steve
Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopi ... b9f#p96803
Mystery is traded for function in this topic about
linuxsampler, scroll down for details and screenshots from the intrepid and prolific ubuntuuser. Using multi-channel drums is
a big part of the discussion.
Cheers
Mystery is traded for function in this topic about
linuxsampler, scroll down for details and screenshots from the intrepid and prolific ubuntuuser. Using multi-channel drums is
a big part of the discussion.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php ... 61&page=14
Over at the official linux Reaper forum, the implementing of
DXVK (derived from Steam,/Vulkan I think) and an e-sync patch in
wine variants, is proving helpful, successes reported with
some Waves plugins/registration, and xFer's Serum,
and more generally, good results using Kontakt.
It also appears each new release of wine-staging is running
a better share of windows .dlls and .exe's, without the need
for 'over-rides'. It's at V 3.15
Looks like time to upgrade when 3.16 hits the cellars.
Cheers
Over at the official linux Reaper forum, the implementing of
DXVK (derived from Steam,/Vulkan I think) and an e-sync patch in
wine variants, is proving helpful, successes reported with
some Waves plugins/registration, and xFer's Serum,
and more generally, good results using Kontakt.
It also appears each new release of wine-staging is running
a better share of windows .dlls and .exe's, without the need
for 'over-rides'. It's at V 3.15
Looks like time to upgrade when 3.16 hits the cellars.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
https://fmchallenge.osamc.de/
Similar to the great One Synth Challenge here at KVR,
but instead of one synth, the instrument selection is limited
to open-source FM synths, a list is at this link:
https://fmchallenge.osamc.de/fmsynths/
Details and rules at the top link, no prizes yet,
but that appears to be open to change.
Cheers
Similar to the great One Synth Challenge here at KVR,
but instead of one synth, the instrument selection is limited
to open-source FM synths, a list is at this link:
https://fmchallenge.osamc.de/fmsynths/
Details and rules at the top link, no prizes yet,
but that appears to be open to change.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
someone has quite unwittingly, and without any
negative intent, thrown down the gauntlet before
a certain developer. My first and continuing thought,
based on the developers history and skill, is,
'that dev will surely rise to this obscure challenge at some point'.
When/if that happens, I'll spend around $50 from my
can of dimes at their shop to celebrate the reinforcing
of good, good! good!!! ...good vibrations...
Cheers
negative intent, thrown down the gauntlet before
a certain developer. My first and continuing thought,
based on the developers history and skill, is,
'that dev will surely rise to this obscure challenge at some point'.
When/if that happens, I'll spend around $50 from my
can of dimes at their shop to celebrate the reinforcing
of good, good! good!!! ...good vibrations...
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Can't supply any hints, or it could turn into
extra gauntlets, definitely not my intent.
But I'm curious to see how well I can
read someone whom I've never met,
aside from reading forum posts.
(as an aside, It drives me carazy when I hear some chic say,
'I met him online' ...sorry, honey, you really didn't.
extra gauntlets, definitely not my intent.
But I'm curious to see how well I can
read someone whom I've never met,
aside from reading forum posts.
(as an aside, It drives me carazy when I hear some chic say,
'I met him online' ...sorry, honey, you really didn't.
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- KVRAF
- 9132 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
https://github.com/x42/lv2vst
This is a wrapper to make linux lv2 plugins
be detected as linux vst plugins by linux daws
like reaper, bitwig, mixbus, qtractor, renoise,
traction, ardour, radium, carla,
and whatever I left out
There are many excellent lv2 plugins and collections.
Keep a limiter on any test tracks, as lv2vst is
experimental, and not all lv2's have had extensive
beta testing.
A rather long list is here,
https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linu ... ollections
including
Calf, invada, gx, mda, rkr, zam, x42
This is a wrapper to make linux lv2 plugins
be detected as linux vst plugins by linux daws
like reaper, bitwig, mixbus, qtractor, renoise,
traction, ardour, radium, carla,
and whatever I left out
There are many excellent lv2 plugins and collections.
Keep a limiter on any test tracks, as lv2vst is
experimental, and not all lv2's have had extensive
beta testing.
A rather long list is here,
https://github.com/nodiscc/awesome-linu ... ollections
including
Calf, invada, gx, mda, rkr, zam, x42