My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

[Zexila]

Just went to SCAN and tried to configure one to that Macbook Pro, 2500 pounds/3200 dollars and still it doesn't have retina display, so yeah, that's about it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/titan-ka ... l#t=b4c2d1
£1,214.04

Laptop, for the third time, laptop, not desktop.

[SOUND7]

[Zexila]

I just stated I had bought this one. Why would this proceed immediately to 'maybe he needs a laptop'? Weird.

He suggested you should bought desktop PC instead, than I suggested that you might need an laptop and you bought a laptop, what's weird about that, you bought a laptop because you wanted to buy an laptop.

[Coxy]

Well... as long as the Mac crew just enjoys what they got, it's all good. The problem arises, when they show their high nose, and do a lot of trash talk about other's stuff.

Not sure if we really need several pages to this thread though. In my opinion, the answer is quite simple: No, you can't say generally that the OS is responsible for the issues stated in the OP, and, no, it won't be automagically better with another OS, when you keep on doing what you are doing.

Whether or not the OP WANTS another OS or computer is another thing.

Where's your evidence for this?

I can't see anywhere in this thread that a Mac user/owner trash talked a PC user here. In fact it seems to be the contrary and the opposite actually seems to be more like truth.

I agree on your other points however.

[fmr]

but that silicon is saddled to a laptop with a keyboard that's just not great. You'll finally get the option to get 32 GB of RAM, but you'll have to carry a gaggle of dongles everywhere you go. You'll get a gorgeous display, but it's not true 4K.

THAT is the basis of your argument? LOL. Seriously. It's a gorgeous display but here's some words to care more about. I have 32 GB RAM, period. It's the fastest chip but the "silicon" is hindered by... I have no_idea what that sentence* is supposed to be dealing with but it doesn't resemble my experience.

*: "a gaggle of dongles"' is that like a 'murder of crows'?

WHO WRITES LIKE THAT.

I didn't - you quoted me erroneously. Wired did - I even posted the link. Go get'em

I couldn't care less.

[jdnz]

£4000, for an Apple laptop!!!!... that's crazy, you can build a more powerful PC

Maybe he needs an laptop, can you suggest more powerful laptop?

You can still buy 'portable workstations' (Dell and HP both have several models - big sellers for the engineering market), which support both more RAM than the 'new' macbook pro (32gb isn't really that much for those kind of applications), bigger screens (17") and the same 6-core cpu.

But here's the thing - they make the MacBook look CHEAP (and they're not as sexy looking)

[Zexila]

£4000, for an Apple laptop!!!!... that's crazy, you can build a more powerful PC

Maybe he needs an laptop, can you suggest more powerful laptop?

You can still buy 'portable workstations' (Dell and HP both have several models - big sellers for the engineering market), which support both more RAM than the 'new' macbook pro (32gb isn't really that much for those kind of applications), bigger screens (17") and the same 6-core cpu.

But here's the thing - they make the MacBook look CHEAP (and they're not as sexy looking)

Cool, care to share some links to those beasts?

[fmr]

Just went to SCAN and tried to configure one to that Macbook Pro, 2500 pounds/3200 dollars and still it doesn't have retina display, so yeah, that's about it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/titan-ka ... l#t=b4c2d1
£1,214.04

Laptop, for the third time, laptop, not desktop.

You want laptops? here - get whatever you want: https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/360470/th ... st-laptops

[jdnz]

£4000, for an Apple laptop!!!!... that's crazy, you can build a more powerful PC

Maybe he needs an laptop, can you suggest more powerful laptop?

You can still buy 'portable workstations' (Dell and HP both have several models - big sellers for the engineering market), which support both more RAM than the 'new' macbook pro (32gb isn't really that much for those kind of applications), bigger screens (17") and the same 6-core cpu.

But here's the thing - they make the MacBook look CHEAP (and they're not as sexy looking)

Cool, care to share some links to those beasts?

http://www8.hp.com/nz/en/workstations/z ... vQodMwoHxA

[chk071]

I can't see anywhere in this thread that a Mac user/owner trash talked a PC user here. In fact it seems to be the contrary and the opposite actually seems to be more like truth.

Reading through the thread a bit more, and thinking about it, i guess you have a point there. Guess i just don't get why it always has to be the one against the other, or, thinking about leaving to the "other side" when you face some self made issues.

[Zexila]

Just went to SCAN and tried to configure one to that Macbook Pro, 2500 pounds/3200 dollars and still it doesn't have retina display, so yeah, that's about it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/titan-ka ... l#t=b4c2d1
£1,214.04

Laptop, for the third time, laptop, not desktop.

You want laptops? here - get whatever you want: https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/360470/th ... st-laptops

Thanks, give me your address, sending one your way, which one do you want?

[fmr]

Thanks, give me your address, sending one your way, which one do you want?

[Zexila]

£4000, for an Apple laptop!!!!... that's crazy, you can build a more powerful PC

Maybe he needs an laptop, can you suggest more powerful laptop?

You can still buy 'portable workstations' (Dell and HP both have several models - big sellers for the engineering market), which support both more RAM than the 'new' macbook pro (32gb isn't really that much for those kind of applications), bigger screens (17") and the same 6-core cpu.

But here's the thing - they make the MacBook look CHEAP (and they're not as sexy looking)

Cool, care to share some links to those beasts?

http://www8.hp.com/nz/en/workstations/z ... vQodMwoHxA

So this is the best one I could find, really would like to see more powerful laptop for less money, of course with similar specs or better.
https://store.hp.com/app/pdp/hp-zbook-1 ... 96ut-aba-1

[dellboy]

Hey look guys FML found a review that supported their sentiment on a product. Point now proven... we were all hoodwinked by apple from day 1... who knew!?? Thank god FML was able to dig an article up by a paid reviewer to tell the world the truth about this.



Before this thread derails deeper and deeper into the perpetual insecurities of some posters let's look at a simple analogy.

4 doors.
2.0 Litre petrol
Aircon
5 seats
Windscreen wipers
CD player
Electric windows

Vauxhall, Ford, Audi, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, DACIA, Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, KIA.

Whilst they can all be found in that spec or configured from new to that spec it's ludicrous to think they all represent the same quality, ease of use, reliability, longevity, ease of upgradability, efficiency, brand ethos, statement.

Why should that be different for any other industry. Apple make slick products based on an OS that is inherently stable in which they appeal to people who don't mind spending more than than some would deem sensible on something because it resonates with them either functionally, practically or even just because it looks good to them.

Like NO-ONE else on this thread has made a purchase like this in their lives before? Honestly the arrogance of some of you is astounding, I guess you all drive round in a DACIA? Since anything else is OVERPRICED.

Why are you so insecure about people using/moving to Macs?

LOL

True - true - believer.

The farce is strong with this one young padawan

[Tronam]

I just bought the new MacBook Pro. It's a beautiful thing. I'ver never had a computer work this well for DAW work.
Six-core (12 logical cores to distribute), 32 GB RAM is the highest end. It's enough for me. SSD obviously.

<It just works> is not "bollocks" for me.

Sometimes I feel like I have to do 'sudo purge' in Terminal to force purging this holding onto RAM, out of habit. It's more or less negligible now (which means VSL has done something to VE Pro. probably).
Other than that, I don't have to do anything but work. No troubles to shoot.

The new Touch Bar is a time saver; in addition to knowing what's in the OS, it is configured to work with DaVinci Resolve. Apple has essentially partnered with Black Magic on hardware for the power user there. That's just coolness factor here, my usage is sehr basic. It does NOTHING with Nuendo, however. It responds to an extremely light touch, so I'm using it in preference to ENTER, or click. The keyboard is lighter touch as well.


The graphics are quite more crisp than before. Yes, it was 4 grand.

I'm forced to use High Sierra which I won't have chosen to do maybe in my lifetime. Migration from Time Machine, I'm not sure this was the best plan. Spitfire LABS no longer works here, there's a slight hitch. Nothing essential.

$4000?? I upgraded last year to the 2017 15" i7 MBP w/ 1TB SSD and it was around $2600. How did the price get that high? 2-4TB SSD

I agree with your general sentiments. The screen is gorgeous and the overall hardware design is elegant and robust. I like that the clamshell hinge is now solid metal instead of the plastic bar on the older MBPs. It's also mostly silent unless there's sustained load over extended periods of time. Fortunately CPU usage with audio tends to be more spiky, so I almost never hear the fans. The touch bar feels mostly irrelevant to me, save for touch ID, but Logic did add some interesting functionality to it. Overall though stability has been nearly flawless, at least in Sierra. I haven't felt compelled to upgrade to anything more recent. There is a lot of value in having a dependable system I can rely on.