Mercuriall Audio SS-11X.

[Barmaleus]

It is OK to install on 2-3 machines.
If for whatever reasons (system clean install, etc) you need more activations, just send us a message through www.mercuriall.com and we'll add more.

[tappert]

Well, I guess we are on the right track and will convince you with our next plugin

Question is: what's your next plugin? And when are you planning to release it?

[Robmobius]

Hmm... I own a load of these amp sims 'tings and honestly I tend to prefer hardware.

However, as I've owned an AMT SS-20 before (not quite the same pedal) I was intrigued to hear how this sounded itb.

Well, I'm absolutely blown away by how good it sounds. This thing kills it for metal! I found it a breeze to use and flipping through the CABs is dead easy and offer you a load of different sounds. One of the tightest plugins I have in my arsenal.

Really good job guys!!

[Russell Grand]

Woah, that GUI is sexyyyy

[Barmaleus]

Question is: what's your next plugin? And when are you planning to release it?

Our short term plan is to gather as much feedback about SS-11X from the community and see what needs to be fixed/adjusted. Maybe some minor new features.

After that, we want to update U530 with stereo mode and Gate. Maybe something else, don't know yet.

After that, we'll start modeling one goddamn awesome device. Using Neural Hybrid Engine, of course

[Barmaleus]

Hmm... I own a load of these amp sims 'tings and honestly I tend to prefer hardware.

However, as I've owned an AMT SS-20 before (not quite the same pedal) I was intrigued to hear how this sounded itb.

Well, I'm absolutely blown away by how good it sounds. This thing kills it for metal! I found it a breeze to use and flipping through the CABs is dead easy and offer you a load of different sounds. One of the tightest plugins I have in my arsenal.

Really good job guys!!

Thank you sir for your support and feedback! Appreciated!

[przemal]

i loved SS-11X, but if i can get very similar sound from another plugin (free one at that!),

But you know, that SS-11X is based on real preamp pedal from AMT electronics?
So, if similarity of sound SS-11X to the other plugins is disappointment for you, this is not Mercuriall fault, you should have a complaint to AMT electronics.
The only Mercuriall "fault" is fact, that SS-11X sounds the same as real SS-11 valve preamp.
This is obviously ironic, do not take it seriously.

there really are three ways you can make me buy a plugin - price in no-brainer territory (~$25 or less), model of some rare gear that i cannot get anywhere else and that sounds unique, or if you modeled a piece of gear that is "conventional", but extremely versatile and enjoyable to use

But if Mercuriall can model very typical and popular gear (like Mesa, Peavey, Engl, Marschall, etc.), a lot of better than the competitors (Thermionik, Kuassa, Amplitube, and so on) , why not?

it's versatile, but IMO not versatile enough. if it was a plugin that can truly do it all (bluesy sound, tight rhythm, saturated hard rock sound, scooped metal sound, etc.)

With SS-11X, you have two preamps models: modern sounding, more gainy based on 11-SSB preamp pedal (with yellow plate) and more classic, vintage sounding based on 11-SSA preamp pedal (silver plate).
Each one of them, have 3 channels and switches for expand a tone, and you can choose beetwen two different type of tubes.
If for you, this is not enough versatile, than i dont know what to say.

I understand that you are trying to be constructive in your critics, but do not overdo it a bit?

[Burillo]

But you know, that SS-11X is based on real preamp pedal from AMT electronics?
So, if similarity of sound SS-11X to the other plugins is disappointment for you, this is not Mercuriall fault, you should have a complaint to AMT electronics.
The only Mercuriall "fault" is fact, that SS-11X sounds the same as real SS-11 valve preamp.

well, the choice of what to model was Mercuriall's, so it's partly their "fault" too however, i as a downstream consumer don't care about any of that. they're trying to sell me a tool, and i already have a tool that is similar - hence the need for additional convincing.

But if Mercuriall can model very typical and popular gear (like Mesa, Peavey, Engl, Marschall, etc.), a lot of better than the competitors (Thermionik, Kuassa, Amplitube, and so on) , why not?

that is the thing though - i can't say Mercuriall models this gear better than the competition. it's great, no doubt, but both Mercuriall and its competition have reached a point in quality where other factors (workflow, price, versatility, etc.) come into play, not just quality of the modeling. if you think Mercuriall sounds so much better than the competition - good for you, but i don't, and i'm sure Mercuriall themselves would agree that their competition is worthy of respect to say the least.

With SS-11X, you have two preamps models: modern sounding, more gainy based on 11-SSB preamp pedal (with yellow plate) and more classic, vintage sounding based on 11-SSA preamp pedal (silver plate).
Each one of them, have 3 channels and switches for expand a tone, and you can choose beetwen two different type of tubes.
If for you, this is not enough versatile, than i dont know what to say.

it could've had 15 different channels and 30 different tube types for all i care, but if i can't coax certain sounds out of it - it's not versatile enough in my book. it can do a lot, but there's also a lot it can't do (or a lot i couldn't find a way to do). i couldn't do a mid-scooped thrash-y sound out of it, because the EQ section isn't flexible enough (a mid-freq control would've done wonders, but it's not there). i couldn't get a bluesy Marshall-y type sound out of it with either clean or rhythm channel (it sounds too dry and punchy, not loose). the rhythm channel itself sounds like crap past a certain amount of gain and more often than not pretty much requires a pedal in front before it starts sounding even remotely like something i would want to use.

so yeah, it's versatile alright, but it seems that it's geared towards different sounds than what i'm after, and doesn't cover the ground i would like it to cover.

again, as you rightly pointed out - it's not Mercuriall's fault if the hardware sounds like that, but i don't really care. it's their plugin. i don't like the sound of 5150, so i never never bought TSE X50, no matter how great the modeling is, so why would i buy this one?

I understand that you are trying to be constructive in your critics, but do not overdo it a bit?

i'm not trying to be constructive, i'm trying to be honest.

[Robmobius]

i'm not trying to be constructive, I'm trying to be honest.

I think this plugin is not aimed at you at all. So, your criticism seems way over the top and not all that logical to me. You seem to be wanting this pedal to do everything and then some. It's nothing like S-Gear which is a kitchen sink approach for various guitar tones.

This is one pedal and has only one function, which is to recreate the AMT hardware pedal in as much detail as possible. Has it achieved this?

Yes! Very much so... And it sounds incredible to me and it's only 29 bucks at the moment. And not only that, it has added functions that the hardware pedal could never do such as IR and reverb, etc.

[jbraner]

Well, we get your point - but it *is* a good (pre)amp sim, and it *does* have some nice sounds, and it's certainly worth it for $29 (for owning other Mercuriall amps) and still a good deal @ $39.

EDIT: Robmobius beat me to it.

[Burillo]

well excuse me for engaging in a conversation and responding to people that respond to me. i guess i shouldn't make this mistake again.

[cprompt]

well excuse me for engaging in a conversation and responding to people that respond to me. i guess i shouldn't make this mistake again.

You know that if you disagree with somebody else's opinion here you're gonna get shot down in flames

FWIW I like this plugin, it sounds great. But right now, it's not $35 of great for me at the moment. I've been getting some good sounds with the free Ignite Amps PROFet pedal and using some IRs in Recabinet. Good enough for my needs anyway. The SS-11X is a little tighter and punchier but I'm happy with what I've got at the moment.

[jbraner]

well excuse me for engaging in a conversation and responding to people that respond to me. i guess i shouldn't make this mistake again.

It's just weird that someone would spend so much time complaining that a plugin doesn't suit their specific needs. Maybe next time, you should be involved in the design decisions

Anyway - I don't think anyone thinks it's a "mistake" (I certainly didn't) - it's just one or two people
"engaging in a conversation and responding to people" in the thread.

Nothing personal Burrillo, I actually value your opinion

[Burillo]

It's just weird that someone would spend so much time complaining that a plugin doesn't suit their specific needs.

otherwise known as being passionate about amp sims i didn't like previous Mercuriall offerings for reasons having mostly to do with usability and cost. both of these were fixed with SS-11X, so it's a great pity for me that i can't actually buy it because it just doesn't fit my sonic preferences enough to justify the purchase. that is where my frustration comes from - for things that i could, i totally loved it, so i want moar!

[jbraner]

Oh well, Barmaleus said

After that, we'll start modeling one goddamn awesome device.

so, maybe that will be the one!