Your next hardware purchase (non guitar)
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
I'm very curious to your response to the Quantum when you get it justin. I've heard mixed bags. It is the single other large scale keyboard I had considered recently. The Moog One and Quantum are completely different universes though.
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- KVRAF
- 1768 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
I will fly low for a few months (I need the dentist to do some work in the following months and I want to pay him as soon as possible - I'm uncomfortable with the idea of people waiting to be paid by me), so it would probably be a pair of pedals (should I find something I want/need) to use them with synths, or something like a Roland Boutique (if something new and interesting comes to the market).
I'm planning of expanding my Mother 32 setup in 2019. I'd get a third one for sure, but I'd really like to get also a fourth one. Then I could make four voice chords... the critical part is adding a voice distributor to the system (I'm thinking of building one before buying any new Mother 32), so I could play poly with a keyboard and not just make "one finger chord patches" or sequence everything (I would also do that, but four voices are enough to start thinking about poly).
And I will also have to buy a new computer (it's about time, I'm afraid)...
I'm planning of expanding my Mother 32 setup in 2019. I'd get a third one for sure, but I'd really like to get also a fourth one. Then I could make four voice chords... the critical part is adding a voice distributor to the system (I'm thinking of building one before buying any new Mother 32), so I could play poly with a keyboard and not just make "one finger chord patches" or sequence everything (I would also do that, but four voices are enough to start thinking about poly).
And I will also have to buy a new computer (it's about time, I'm afraid)...
- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Behringer Neutron. As expected, it's already on sale everywhere - but still awesome.
It will need to wait for new place, though - don't have space to stack more hardware at the moment.
It will need to wait for new place, though - don't have space to stack more hardware at the moment.
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- KVRian
- 1494 posts since 13 Sep, 2012
Prolly IK Multimedia Uno and a MIDI thru device (possibly an Erica Synths unit). That is, if I do manage to sell my Electribe 2 first...
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
Well my missives on the thread seem to be more "last HW purchase" rather than "next HW purchase" or whatever. Actually of this message's topic, one of the two gadgets was about a year ago but I've lost so many brain cells I can't remember if it was mentioned already. The other one came a couple of weeks ago.
Probably classifiable as "hopelessly square"--
[last year] V3 Sound Grand Piano 3 GB http://www.v3sound.com/en/e-ov-pianists.html
[couple weeks ago] V3 Sound Sonority XL 4GB http://www.v3sound.com/en/e-product-gm-sonority-xl.html
They are small sample player devices, very good fidelity and playability so far as I can tell. I tend to have perceptual issues, sometimes an instrument sounds good if someone else plays it but doesn't sound good to me when I play it. And sometimes the playing response is "off-putting" not-quite-right velocity response, either too sensitive or not sensitive enough. Or too much sustain or not enough sustain, etc.
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So the V3 Piano, I didn't have any synth with "good enough" AC and E Pianos. Annoying tone or playing response in one way or the other. Because my ear is easily fooled listening to demos, then more disappointed when I play the instrument, did a lot of youtube piano demo listening. Didn't want to spend a fortune on piano synth but was tired of not having "good enough" piano tones. So finally the V3 Piano demos seemed to sound good enough to gamble on.
I'm happy with it-- Plays naturally. The timbres are not annoying and can be played evenly without taking extreme care that some notes don't come out ridiculously too loud or too buried. About the same "ease of use" a decent grand piano has, no big surprises. There are two main big AC piano samples, a Bosendorfer and a German Steinway, with several variation patches out of the sample sets. Two or three main Rhodes sample sets with several variation patches, a Wurlie sample set with several variations, and "Electric Grand" sample set that sounds to me about like a Yamaha CP70. I was never an electric grand fan but played them when it was the only affordable portable alternative, before digital sampling. But even electric grand could be fun and useful timbre sometimes, nostalgia about short-stringed severely enharmonic overpriced spinet equivalents if nothing else.
The V3 Piano has decent-enough FM piano and a Clav that would probably do but I wouldn't pick as a first choice. Has several strings and organ samples and a couple of bass samples that would be usable, and a couple of patches pretty nice like a TX816 Piano Stack. But mainly just got the box for the pianos and am happy with it.
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Last year Klaus had mentioned he was working on a GM box and this summer I noticed he had released the Sonority XL. Only maybe 5 or 10 short youtube sound demos (which sound OK) but from the good sound of the V3 Piano, the few demos and the patch list decided to get that box as well.
Mainly just a little box stuffed with lots of good-quality acoustic sounds. I mean there are some decent enough synthy samples in there but I got it for the acoustic sounds. Especially for a fairly complete selection of bread'n'butter orchestral and ethnic folk instruments.
The GM Pianos are probably as good or better than most GM synths, but I haven't paid close attention to the Pianos in the Sonority XL, that's what the V3 Piano was for. There is a pretty good selection of usable basses and the acoustic drum kits seem quite usable. The Sonority XL Clav patches are stronger and easier/more fun to play than the Clav in the V3 Piano.
But I've never had what I considered a well-balanced set of orch sounds. The Sonority XL "classical" block of sounds has several articulations of all the strings and usable versions of winds, horns, harps, etc. And lots of european folk instruments. And lots of interesting various types of accordion sounds. I was never much of an accordion buff but one of Klaus' main customer bases are accordionists and he includes about 60 different accordion sample sets interesting and realistic.
Every rompler I've had might have about half a grab-bag of random string sounds. The romplers I've had, even if the synth has separate Marcato and Legato sample sets, they don't tone-match close enough that you can piece together a performance hocketing between the Marcato and Legato channels/tracks. Or maybe they give you a cello section sample that sounds like it was recorded in a different galaxy than the violin section, so it sounds ridiculous trying to use both in the same song. Or you get bassoon samples that don't sound like bassoon, the wimpiest possible tuba, and you would never in a million years guess that the french horn sample is sposed to be a french horn just by listening to the sound.
Along the same lines I've played with several software big orchestral sample sets over the years but am hardly expert on all the orchestral samples. Of the ones I've played with, it was the same deal as above with romplers-- There seemed to be lots of "sub-par" instruments in the sets. Even with hundreds of patches in a big library, just a little too shoddy and ill-matched to get real excited about.
95+ percent of the realism of such instruments is the way they are played rather than the timbre, but its hard to play something that sounds like a bad joke.
So anyway for the money I'm so far quite pleased with the Sonority XL. As with the V3 Piano, the patches respond naturally so I don't have to be hyper-vigilant careful to play non-gappy lines. There is a quite complete selection of instruments and all the timbres are to my ear "good to excellent". I don't recall auditioning any bassoons or english horns that I'd never have guessed without looking at the name in the patch list. Mostly everything is at least good enough that ferinstance sax sounds like sax rather than broken accordion or whatever. The Soprano, Alto, Tenor and Bari Sax samples are quite passable and all sound like they were recorded in the same galaxy, no big problem to record several tracks for a decent sax section choir.
They don't pay me money for advertising. I don't think V3 has much in the way of USA dealers. Buying both boxes, I emailed them asking them to email me an invoice. Then I paid the invoice via Paypal and they shipped from Germany via DHL. They warned that it could take up to 3 weeks but both times my boxes showed up in less than 2 weeks.
Probably classifiable as "hopelessly square"--
[last year] V3 Sound Grand Piano 3 GB http://www.v3sound.com/en/e-ov-pianists.html
[couple weeks ago] V3 Sound Sonority XL 4GB http://www.v3sound.com/en/e-product-gm-sonority-xl.html
They are small sample player devices, very good fidelity and playability so far as I can tell. I tend to have perceptual issues, sometimes an instrument sounds good if someone else plays it but doesn't sound good to me when I play it. And sometimes the playing response is "off-putting" not-quite-right velocity response, either too sensitive or not sensitive enough. Or too much sustain or not enough sustain, etc.
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So the V3 Piano, I didn't have any synth with "good enough" AC and E Pianos. Annoying tone or playing response in one way or the other. Because my ear is easily fooled listening to demos, then more disappointed when I play the instrument, did a lot of youtube piano demo listening. Didn't want to spend a fortune on piano synth but was tired of not having "good enough" piano tones. So finally the V3 Piano demos seemed to sound good enough to gamble on.
I'm happy with it-- Plays naturally. The timbres are not annoying and can be played evenly without taking extreme care that some notes don't come out ridiculously too loud or too buried. About the same "ease of use" a decent grand piano has, no big surprises. There are two main big AC piano samples, a Bosendorfer and a German Steinway, with several variation patches out of the sample sets. Two or three main Rhodes sample sets with several variation patches, a Wurlie sample set with several variations, and "Electric Grand" sample set that sounds to me about like a Yamaha CP70. I was never an electric grand fan but played them when it was the only affordable portable alternative, before digital sampling. But even electric grand could be fun and useful timbre sometimes, nostalgia about short-stringed severely enharmonic overpriced spinet equivalents if nothing else.
The V3 Piano has decent-enough FM piano and a Clav that would probably do but I wouldn't pick as a first choice. Has several strings and organ samples and a couple of bass samples that would be usable, and a couple of patches pretty nice like a TX816 Piano Stack. But mainly just got the box for the pianos and am happy with it.
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Last year Klaus had mentioned he was working on a GM box and this summer I noticed he had released the Sonority XL. Only maybe 5 or 10 short youtube sound demos (which sound OK) but from the good sound of the V3 Piano, the few demos and the patch list decided to get that box as well.
Mainly just a little box stuffed with lots of good-quality acoustic sounds. I mean there are some decent enough synthy samples in there but I got it for the acoustic sounds. Especially for a fairly complete selection of bread'n'butter orchestral and ethnic folk instruments.
The GM Pianos are probably as good or better than most GM synths, but I haven't paid close attention to the Pianos in the Sonority XL, that's what the V3 Piano was for. There is a pretty good selection of usable basses and the acoustic drum kits seem quite usable. The Sonority XL Clav patches are stronger and easier/more fun to play than the Clav in the V3 Piano.
But I've never had what I considered a well-balanced set of orch sounds. The Sonority XL "classical" block of sounds has several articulations of all the strings and usable versions of winds, horns, harps, etc. And lots of european folk instruments. And lots of interesting various types of accordion sounds. I was never much of an accordion buff but one of Klaus' main customer bases are accordionists and he includes about 60 different accordion sample sets interesting and realistic.
Every rompler I've had might have about half a grab-bag of random string sounds. The romplers I've had, even if the synth has separate Marcato and Legato sample sets, they don't tone-match close enough that you can piece together a performance hocketing between the Marcato and Legato channels/tracks. Or maybe they give you a cello section sample that sounds like it was recorded in a different galaxy than the violin section, so it sounds ridiculous trying to use both in the same song. Or you get bassoon samples that don't sound like bassoon, the wimpiest possible tuba, and you would never in a million years guess that the french horn sample is sposed to be a french horn just by listening to the sound.
Along the same lines I've played with several software big orchestral sample sets over the years but am hardly expert on all the orchestral samples. Of the ones I've played with, it was the same deal as above with romplers-- There seemed to be lots of "sub-par" instruments in the sets. Even with hundreds of patches in a big library, just a little too shoddy and ill-matched to get real excited about.
95+ percent of the realism of such instruments is the way they are played rather than the timbre, but its hard to play something that sounds like a bad joke.
So anyway for the money I'm so far quite pleased with the Sonority XL. As with the V3 Piano, the patches respond naturally so I don't have to be hyper-vigilant careful to play non-gappy lines. There is a quite complete selection of instruments and all the timbres are to my ear "good to excellent". I don't recall auditioning any bassoons or english horns that I'd never have guessed without looking at the name in the patch list. Mostly everything is at least good enough that ferinstance sax sounds like sax rather than broken accordion or whatever. The Soprano, Alto, Tenor and Bari Sax samples are quite passable and all sound like they were recorded in the same galaxy, no big problem to record several tracks for a decent sax section choir.
They don't pay me money for advertising. I don't think V3 has much in the way of USA dealers. Buying both boxes, I emailed them asking them to email me an invoice. Then I paid the invoice via Paypal and they shipped from Germany via DHL. They warned that it could take up to 3 weeks but both times my boxes showed up in less than 2 weeks.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
given the handful of eurorack modules ive just won in the charity auction, i guess another mantis and a load more long cables...
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- KVRer
- 23 posts since 3 Nov, 2018
most likely an impulsive behringer pro-1 preorder any day now.
- KVRAF
- 8078 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I traded three Euro modules for two pedals.
Manis Iteritas for a WMD Geiger Counter -- in black, which is pretty rare and looks sharp. Lucky trade IMHO since I was already thinking about trading a filter for this sort of wavetable lookup thing (GC or Megawave or Piston Honda).
Bastl Tromso and Zlob Dual VCA for an RMA Monobius -- an unstable, off-balance ringmod/fuzz thing that can use a bandpass version of its own main input as the second input, and has feedback. It sounds very dirty and weird, a lot more interesting than most distortion, and I'm either going to get tired of it right away or it'll be kind of a secret weapon. Mostly this is a chance to let go of a couple of modules that have been underused/unused for too long.
Also recently picked up a Korg SQ-1 in another trade, and it's a fun thing to have. Nice change in workflow from the more abstract algorithmic sequencing I tend to do in Eurorack and from piano roll MIDI sequencing.
Manis Iteritas for a WMD Geiger Counter -- in black, which is pretty rare and looks sharp. Lucky trade IMHO since I was already thinking about trading a filter for this sort of wavetable lookup thing (GC or Megawave or Piston Honda).
Bastl Tromso and Zlob Dual VCA for an RMA Monobius -- an unstable, off-balance ringmod/fuzz thing that can use a bandpass version of its own main input as the second input, and has feedback. It sounds very dirty and weird, a lot more interesting than most distortion, and I'm either going to get tired of it right away or it'll be kind of a secret weapon. Mostly this is a chance to let go of a couple of modules that have been underused/unused for too long.
Also recently picked up a Korg SQ-1 in another trade, and it's a fun thing to have. Nice change in workflow from the more abstract algorithmic sequencing I tend to do in Eurorack and from piano roll MIDI sequencing.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
the gc is a nice pedalfoosnark wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm WMD Geiger Counter -- in black, which is pretty rare and looks sharp.
cant comment on the other as ive not heard it.
- KVRAF
- 1986 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC
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- KVRAF
- 5203 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
New computer.
Roland Integra 7
Ik Multimedia Uno Synth
DSI Prophet Rev 2 Desktop 8 Voice
8 Voice expansion for Prophet Rev 2
Behringer DeepMind 12 (Missed it after having to sell it about a year ago).
Roland Integra 7
Ik Multimedia Uno Synth
DSI Prophet Rev 2 Desktop 8 Voice
8 Voice expansion for Prophet Rev 2
Behringer DeepMind 12 (Missed it after having to sell it about a year ago).
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Can't be that hard. Surely you just blow in it...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35491 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Waiting on the arrival of yet another Arduino-style module, this time a 1010Music Euroshield running a Teensy. Wondering if I can rig a daughterboard for a Teensy 3.6 that lets it still fit neatly in a case.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."


