KVR Audio

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:01 am

Here: https://www.pluginguru.com/products/meg ... 7d6fc1eea1

cfanyc · Post by **cfanyc** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:47 pm

I think I will wait for the super megamagic harpsichord and then the hyper mega magic bone flute!

I mean, joking aside, and with respect to plugin guru who has produced some of the finest
synth soundbanks, is omnisphere the right format for violin samples? With 8 samples per patch?
At $48 price point? With the reverb baked in?

When with the same amount of money you can get full string orchestra libraries,
multi-sampled (thousands of samples, multiple velocity layers),
with multiple microphone setups, multiple articulations, multiple configurable
reverb IRs, and configurable ensembles?

I really do not get it.

ckam03 · Post by **ckam03** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:42 pm

You clearly don't get it because that's not the point of the library at all. He specifically says he's not trying to compete with full multisampled string libraries. It's also mostly pad sounds with the violin samples in there. Link me to these 48 dollar sample libraries though please.

cfanyc · Post by **cfanyc** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:32 pm

here are some options:
soundiron hyperion strings ($49),
8dio adagieto (bought for $48 when it was on sale you may have to wait),
kontakt free orchestral library,
komplete elements ($49),
urban strings ($39),
Performance Samples Fluid Shorts ($79),
Sonivox Orchestral companion strings ($69),
halion symphonic orchestra ($99)

Also: how is the fact that he says he does not trying to compete with properly sampled
string libraries addresses my question?

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:00 pm

I picked up OMG! Drums URBAN RMX for Omnisphere 2 recently when it was discounted at $42.
I was hoping for more for the money, but I might learn a few tricks by studying some of the programming. As far as usefulness for what I do, it fell a bit flat for me and didn't quite live up to the hype. Only my opinion for my uses. YMMV
...back to violin topic...

ckam03 · Post by **ckam03** » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:04 am

Lmao... those libraries are all trash except for the 8dio and Soundiron one. Also: it doesn't. The fact that I said it's mostly pad sounds does. He throws in some of the more traditional violin sounds because why not? The samples are already there but the library isn't supposed to fill the same role as an orchestral library. So to summarize, you get a lot of pad sounds and some pretty good sounding traditional violin multis, No need to buy any of the libraries you mentioned if you don't need realism so this library is perfectly suited for something like ambient in my opinion. Again, doesn't fill the same role as the libraries you mentioned...

cfanyc · Post by **cfanyc** » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:50 pm

ckam03 wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:04 am Lmao... those libraries are all trash except for the 8dio and Soundiron one. Also: it doesn't. The fact that I said it's mostly pad sounds does. He throws in some of the more traditional violin sounds because why not? The samples are already there but the library isn't supposed to fill the same role as an orchestral library. So to summarize, you get a lot of pad sounds and some pretty good sounding traditional violin multis, No need to buy any of the libraries you mentioned if you don't need realism so this library is perfectly suited for something like ambient in my opinion. Again, doesn't fill the same role as the libraries you mentioned...

Mkay. Since omnisphere has a variety of string patches already built in
and they are all multisampled, I just do not see the value of throwing in a questionable violin recording
(1 sample per octave basically) as a substrate for building pads, and selling this for $48 to boot.
But good luck and have fun to whoever gets excited by stuff like that....

ckam03 · Post by **ckam03** » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:16 pm

Using that logic, nobody should even bother using samples then unless they can multisample. I'll make sure to pass that bit on then to any developer that thinks it's a good idea. I don't know why you're so hung up on the technicalities of it being multisampled or not. If it sounds good, nobody cares. Would it sound better if Omni did have support for multisampling? Probably. It doesn't though so you have to deal with what you have available if you want access to the Omni soundsources.

cfanyc · Post by **cfanyc** » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:56 pm

I appreciate your open mindedness and see your argument, but here is mine:

I really hope that John stops producing these libraries that are completely regressive sonically,
and do not take omni neither to the future of sound design nor to a glorious past (because they are not top notch
vintage synthesis, not top notch modern synthesis, and not top notch classical orchestral stuff either).

Two thoughts are particularly bothersome:

1. This product can be explained as the result of a
process that spits out an expensive omni soundbank (they do not get more expensive than that)
with minimal effort and minimal session player expense (1 afternoon of one violinist's time
as explained in one of the vids). So there seems to be a spirit of exploiting the market there.

2. John is a genious sound designer, don't get me wrong. But lately he relies more
and more on others doing his libraries including random "Joes" among his clients
who submit patches of highly variable quality for inclusion in commercial libraries.
This is making what used to be an ultra-high quality professional sound design outfit into a
"recreational patch making for the masses" emporium.

Unless he has run out of ideas, it is a terrible waste of his talents. It also wastes the spectacular
potential of omni 2.5

My honest 2c. If others love this stuff, more power to them.

PlugInGuru’s MegaMagic Violin has landed