KVR Audio

Obsolete317542 · Post by **Obsolete317542** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:43 pm

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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:03 pm

So, you have been building PC's for 20 years, and you never stop fighting BSODs and driver update failings? Man, you must be really incompetent. You should have look for help A LONG TIME AGO

So, you bought a Mac one year ago... Maybe you should have done that sooner. You clearly don't have the skills to build your own PC.

But if you read this thread, you should have noticed that usually, Macs don't fail after one year (because that's under the warranty). Problems usually happen a little past over two years, or when Apple "updates" the OS. So, keep your champaign on ice, and don't open the bottle yet. It's too early to celebrate.

Obsolete317542 · Post by **Obsolete317542** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:16 pm

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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:17 pm

Eclectus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:16 pm
fmr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:03 pm So, you have been building PC's for 20 years, and you never stop fighting BSODs and driver update failings? Man, you must be really incompetent. You should have look for help A LONG TIME AGO

So, you bought a Mac one year ago... Maybe you should have done that sooner. You clearly don't have the skills to build your own PC.
There there. You're on my blocklist now. Is that better? Cheerio!

Truth hurts

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:19 pm

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:41 pm

People, people. C'mon - the guy's Mac never needed a format in a whole year!
That's gotta be worth sumphin, ain't it? Bit of respect.

jabe · Post by **jabe** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:44 pm

toonertik wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:26 pm
jabe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:15 pm I used to used IBM mainframes, but not for music.
Me to.. but not for music... data data data tada!

Sometimes it was even fun. Such as trying to unravel Colossal Cave. I left my findings to the next generation, who completed it.

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:51 pm

In all seriousness, Mac is likely to dump Intel and go with ARM processors within the next few years. The objective here would be to be able to build a professional audio workstation that will fit in something the size of a cigarette packet - presumably.

If this goes down there will likely be some emulation but eventually things will need to be coded and optimised for the 4th platform in 30 years. That will be a speedbump and a half for the whole industry.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:17 pm

egbert wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:51 pm In all seriousness, Mac is likely to dump Intel and go with ARM processors within the next few years. The objective here would be to be able to build a professional audio workstation that will fit in something the size of a cigarette packet - presumably.

We'll see it when it will happen. For the time being that's nothing else than pure speculation. Do they even have a real macOS running in ARM?

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:28 pm

Mac OS - the Next Step kind - is built on a UNIX variant and has been ported to all kinds of hardware. One port was reportedly done by an intern believe it or not.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/1 ... tel_again/

Coxy · Post by **Coxy** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:34 pm

fmr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:03 pm So, you have been building PC's for 20 years, and you never stop fighting BSODs and driver update failings? Man, you must be really incompetent. You should have look for help A LONG TIME AGO

So, you bought a Mac one year ago... Maybe you should have done that sooner. You clearly don't have the skills to build your own PC.

But if you read this thread, you should have noticed that usually, Macs don't fail after one year (because that's under the warranty). Problems usually happen a little past over two years, or when Apple "updates" the OS. So, keep your champaign on ice, and don't open the bottle yet. It's too early to celebrate.

Really Fernando? Was there any need to personally insult someone?

Why are you so insecure about people previously using PC's but now 'successfully' using Macs you feel you have to personally attack them now?

Aren't we all here just to share experiences, learn best practices, learn and create better music regardless of platform? This thread has demonstrated the bitterness of some people for no apparent reason.

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:47 pm

@fmr
Remember, Apple makes plenty moolah. It makes bugger all of that wad from the Mac these days. The ARM based iPhone brings home the bacon. The company makes its own ARM cpus for the iThings and presumably any other consumer electronics it has coming down the pike. The investment is in shifting unique shiny baubles to the faithful and making new converts. Using an Intel based platform for Macs makes it less profitable and less distinctive wrt the competition. Rolling its own will be more profitable (no margin for Intel for chipsets and CPUs etc) and allow more control of design, form factor etc.

If this doesn't pan out it will not be because Apple didn't want all of those goodies.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:16 pm

egbert wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:41 pm People, people. C'mon - the guy's Mac never needed a format in a whole year!
That's gotta be worth sumphin, ain't it? Bit of respect.

That is one big feature in a Mac's favor.

But actually reflects its roots in Unix, BSD , Linux.

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:29 pm

@dellboy - like you, 20 years of building PCs. Half a dozen working here. Haven't formatted anything except new drives since the 90s. You sound like a bot.

Oh - and seriously, Mac OS has roots in Linux? Who knew. Try telling that to Torvalds.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:59 pm

egbert wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:29 pm @dellboy - like you, 20 years of building PCs. Half a dozen working here. Haven't formatted anything except new drives since the 90s. You sound like a bot.

Oh - and seriously, Mac OS has roots in Linux? Who knew. Try telling that to Torvalds.

Not sure what I said to upset you, are you anti or pro Mac ?

I use Windows purely because I cannot afford a Mac.

As for Torvalds, yes, Linux is not Unix, but its roots or DNA are in there somewhere. I well remember reading in the early 1990's about how Torvalds was building a new operating system that was very Unix like but not actually Unix. Or is my memory playing tricks again ?

My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?