DAW with a nearly great piano roll like fl studio?

[Trancit]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

Same answer for both...:

There is no DAW outside more stable than Reaper
There is no DAW outside more efficient than Reaper...

[THE INTRANCER]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

Same answer for both...:

There is no DAW outside more stable than Reaper
There is no DAW outside more efficient than Reaper...

Nonsense...

A DAW is only as stable and as efficient as the person that knows or doesn't know how to use it.

[Caine123]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

Same answer for both...:

There is no DAW outside more stable than Reaper
There is no DAW outside more efficient than Reaper...

Nonsense...

A DAW is only as stable and as efficient as the person that knows or doesn't know how to use it.

Rofl what a bullshit... tell it the people on il forum which is full of crash reports etc.

[Trancit]

Nonsense...

A DAW is only as stable and as efficient as the person that knows or doesn't know how to use it.

This time you've outdone yourself.

While I agree, that it depends to a certain degree to the OS and plugins used

[Trancit]

... tell it the people on il forum which is full of crash reports etc.

Well, full of crash reports I wouldn´t say but there were a few drastic changes in the last few updates and the Mac version is quite new so this of cause can take some time till all bugs are sorted out ...

I never had any problems with stability of FLS even with the betas... I cannot remember when it crashed the last time...

[Danilo Villanova]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

The best, really. I've been using it for years and now I'm switching to Cakewalk because I just like the workflow better, it's more of a musical instrument than Reaper is. But when it comes to stability and CPU use, nothing comes close to Reaper.

[JoseC.]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

The best, really. I've been using it for years and now I'm switching to Cakewalk because I just like the workflow better, it's more of a musical instrument than Reaper is. But when it comes to stability and CPU use, nothing comes close to Reaper.

I agree about CPU use, but not much about stability. I guess it depends on how you use it. Every time I have tried Reaper with realtime midi its performance has been less than good. I even found it pretty easy to make it crash sending to it two or three simultaneous midi sequences from hardware units slaved to its clock. If it did not crash, the timing of the recording would be all over the place. Sonar or Ableton Live would record everything without a crash, and generally with much better timing, and with much less or no jitter. In terms of realtime midi handling and sync, Reaper has always been much worse than the other two every time I have tested it. It's been a couple of years since the last time, though.

[acYm]

so reaper's roll has the chopping, clawing, splicing, in-built multichannel expression, and all the various features FL has? didn't know that. if so, it goes in the "can hang with FL" column. otherwise it goes along with every other single piano roll in the "geriatric" column.

[Danilo Villanova]

so reaper's roll has the chopping, clawing, splicing, in-built multichannel expression, and all the various features FL has? didn't know that. if so, it goes in the "can hang with FL" column. otherwise it goes along with every other single piano roll in the "geriatric" column.

I haven't played much with FL Studio's piano roll but it looks much more intuitive and powerful than Reaper's. You CAN do a lot with Reaper's if you customize it and what not, but that doesn't mean that you can make it as good as FLS's. The whole "Reaper can do anything that other DAWs can and more" thing has kind of turned into a meme that spreads rapidly.

[anomandaris1]

I haven't played much with FL Studio's piano roll but it looks much more intuitive and powerful than Reaper's. You CAN do a lot with Reaper's if you customize it and what not, but that doesn't mean that you can make it as good as FLS's. The whole "Reaper can do anything that other DAWs can and more" thing has kind of turned into a meme that spreads rapidly.

It's not a meme, but there is no nothing intuitive or simple in setting up your Reaper configuration... Tell us what are you missing from FL? Just because you can't make your Reaper work, doesn't mean that other people can't do it. I use both Daws - Fl mainly for the instruments like Sytrus and some others that I don't want to rebuy as vsts to use in Reaper. Reaper for mixing or complex projects that require organisational features that FL simply does not have at all.

[Trancit]

I agree about CPU use, but not much about stability. I guess it depends on how you use it. Every time I have tried Reaper with realtime midi its performance has been less than good. I even found it pretty easy to make it crash sending to it two or three simultaneous midi sequences from hardware units slaved to its clock. If it did not crash, the timing of the recording would be all over the place. Sonar or Ableton Live would record everything without a crash, and generally with much better timing, and with much less or no jitter. In terms of realtime midi handling and sync, Reaper has always been much worse than the other two every time I have tested it. It's been a couple of years since the last time, though.

Well, these are very rare circumstances and I wouldn´t use them as reference for the overall stability...
At the very end, every DAW has it´s flaws in very certain situations, if this is Reaper´s... well I can live with that...
As I guess this affects less than one of thousand Reaper user, I wouldn´t hold my breath on much improvement in this regard.

[Trancit]

so reaper's roll has the chopping, clawing, splicing, in-built multichannel expression, and all the various features FL has? didn't know that. if so, it goes in the "can hang with FL" column. otherwise it goes along with every other single piano roll in the "geriatric" column.

Nobody said, it can be a 100% clone, FLS stays still unbeatable regarding it´s PR Editor, while many of these features could be done by scripts and custom actions I think...
Nevertheless, from all I tried, Reaper comes closest in regards of feeling, using the same mouse behaviour, flexibility...etc...
And of course, perhaps Reaper´s PR cannot recreate every tool of FLS´s PR but does many things FLS cannot...i.e. a much easier, faster and more convenient way of having ghost channels in the PR without having the need to put them into the same pattern...

[chk071]

How stable is reaper overall? And cpu efficient?

Same answer for both...:

There is no DAW outside more stable than Reaper
There is no DAW outside more efficient than Reaper...

Nonsense...

A DAW is only as stable and as efficient as the person that knows or doesn't know how to use it.

Rather the plugins used, I would say. But, yeah, I'd call BS too.

[JoseC.]

I agree about CPU use, but not much about stability. I guess it depends on how you use it. Every time I have tried Reaper with realtime midi its performance has been less than good. I even found it pretty easy to make it crash sending to it two or three simultaneous midi sequences from hardware units slaved to its clock. If it did not crash, the timing of the recording would be all over the place. Sonar or Ableton Live would record everything without a crash, and generally with much better timing, and with much less or no jitter. In terms of realtime midi handling and sync, Reaper has always been much worse than the other two every time I have tested it. It's been a couple of years since the last time, though.

Well, these are very rare circumstances and I wouldn´t use them as reference for the overall stability...
At the very end, every DAW has it´s flaws in very certain situations, if this is Reaper´s... well I can live with that...
As I guess this affects less than one of thousand Reaper user, I wouldn´t hold my breath on much improvement in this regard.

Well, it is my own reference for stability, because I like jamming with hardware sequencers and arpeggiators, and recording the result. Reaper just do not behave well for that. That is not so rare a workflow, it is only that it is more of Ableton's turf. Cakewalk behaves better, too. A search about midi sync issues in Reaper's forum will show that this has been long reported, and you are right in that this will not probably improve.

[rodanmusic]

I've used most of the major DAWs, and Studio One was easily the closest. Closest in workflow and closest in snappiness and smoothness of workflow.

In fact after using Studio One for awhile I actually prefer it to FLStudio's piano roll. It honestly took me like 8 years of trying DAWs to come to that conclusion because unfortunately I was so connected at the hip to the way that FLStudio's piano roll worked.