Are Todays Daw's Making People Lazy Producers ?

[learnkeys]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

[herodotus]

As someone who doesn't need to "imagine" working with tape and edits, it's more accurate and in a sense easier to do it in the audio editor in Cubendo. In that I was pretty good at it with tape, it takes maybe less time, maybe not as it's a different method; for instance I zoom way in and cut visually versus scrubbing. I'm really anal about it, vs getting on with it. Certainly more accuracy is availed.

It's not very much physical labor to literally scrub vs click a mouse or make a mark with the white pencil or draw the blade across the tape. So this is a rather poor example of DAW tech <making> a person lazier.

Your remote control on your TV makes you lazier, hard to argue with.

Actually, no, it's not hard to argue with.

If an Olympic champion uses every time saving device known to humanity, he still isn't lazy.

To think that a time saving device or convenience makes one more lazy is to assume that there is a natural amount of work in life. If you take this to its logical conclusion, we would all be living in colonial Williamsburg.

[Hink]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

[learnkeys]

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

Trolling? How'd you get the moderator job, may I ask?

[JunSev]

The people should understand the fact that science is used to simplify and have more production in realtime very often, if the humanity decided to use the technology in the wrong way then that will be the end result; some people get so confident that ended up committing the big mistake of overconfident.

For instance there should be awareness: yeah this new technology is simplifying things but also opens entire opportunities to create more tracks, having good control of quality on my own tracks and improving the overall sound. So how would be even bad to have more production (of course used in the right way)?

Everyone should know that really is not the technology, is the bad use of it really...

[learnkeys]

The people should understand the fact that science is used to simplify and have more production in realtime very often, if the humanity decided to use the technology in the wrong way then that will be the end result; some people get so confident that ended up committing the big mistake of overconfident.

For instance there should be awareness: yeah this new technology is simplifying things but also opens entire opportunities to create more tracks, having good control of quality on my own tracks and improving the overall sound. So how would be even bad to have more production (of course used in the right way)?

Everyone should know that really is not the technology, is the bad use of it really...

Trolling obviously, because I don't agree with it.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

I disagree on the trolling. I think he is wrong, but I do think he is presenting what he truly believes to be a cogent argument. At face-value some of it could be seen as pretty convincing, but ultimately I think it fails.

Maybe I'll be bothered to try and deconstruct it, later

[herodotus]

Trolling? How'd you get the moderator job, may I ask?

By being one of the nicest, most reasonable, and most even tempered people in the kvr community.

[learnkeys]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

I disagree on the trolling. I think he is wrong, but I do think he is presenting what he truly believes to be a cogent argument. At face-value some of it could be seen as pretty convincing, but ultimately I think it fails.

Maybe I'll be bothered to try and deconstruct it, later

Why do you think all the kids today are stuck inside playing on tablets, consoles and computers? Maybe it's from the technology.

Why are the kids so over weight, out of shape and physically uncoordinated? Maybe it's the lack of outdoor activities.

Or maybe, they are made lazy by what they've been taught to do?

[learnkeys]

Trolling? How'd you get the moderator job, may I ask?

By being one of the nicest, most reasonable, and most even tempered people in the kvr community.

That's pretty clear.

[Hink]

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

Trolling? How'd you get the moderator job, may I ask?

I can see in the dark

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

I disagree on the trolling. I think he is wrong, but I do think he is presenting what he truly believes to be a cogent argument. At face-value some of it could be seen as pretty convincing, but ultimately I think it fails.

Maybe I'll be bothered to try and deconstruct it, later

Why do you think all the kids today are stuck inside playing on tablets, consoles and computers? Maybe it's from the technology.

Why are the kids so over weight, out of shape and physically uncoordinated? Maybe it's the lack of outdoor activities.

Or maybe, they are made lazy by what they've been taught to do?

Rather than wait for my answers (typing on iPad in bed ain't happening, so you'll have to wait), you continue to demonstrate that you can't even be bothered to explore your own assertions, to any worthwhile conclusion?

[Topcheese]

Well if you can no more say that todays computers make journalist lazy, when it's actually the Internet that supports the sloppy journalism. Just like with years of schooling in journalism, so does schooling to become a producer help you out, but a tool is just a tool and nothing more.
There are many other factors that goes into what motivates a producer, but I wouldn't be surprised if you thought the "migrant caravan" makes a producer lazy. lol
I think it inspires more people to produce who normally would have found it a daunting task ... don't hate the player hate the game!

[digitalboytn]

The amount of physical work that was required before the advent of DAWs is highly underrated around here. The amount of hauling, setup, preparation, cabling, labeling, microphone placement, mounting and editing of tape while using analog hardware took a lot more work then sitting all day behind a computer and keyboard painting bars on a grid of a piano roll.

The amount of education, time and practice it took for people to orchestrate and compose music by hand and paper took longer and required a lot more physical intervention and activity.

People now a days are so lazy they don't even know how to play an instrument, read notation or study music theory. They can just use a plugin to randomly generate or create things with artificial intelligence.

Having band practice took more physical work ethic and determination then turning your computer chair around from the TV to your computer monitor. Driving to gigs, practicing in basements and trying to physically record a song from scratch took more effort then grabbing a cup of coffee and waiting for your operating system to boot up.

All of this while we procrastinate with social media technology, and wasting time playing video games on the side, during breaks of course.

What happened to all those outdoor activities you've been promising?

I also don't think that learnkeys is trolling here....

This is a very valid argument backed up with some solid facts...

Old school observations

[VariKusBrainZ]

obvious trolling to which I say duly noted...let's not feed this one people ok?

Trolling? How'd you get the moderator job, may I ask?

I can see in the dark

Im guessing you own a torch