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THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:36 pm But I dunno, if it's me getting older, (I was born in the 1970's), but damn, commercial music today is absolute garbage from how it use to be...
Actually, that's just you being an old man. :lol: :lol: :lol: Commercial music today has plenty of awesome stuff out there, as well as garbage, just like it did in the 1970's/80's/90's.

It's just that old people like you don't like the genres of music that are now considered commercial/pop. Back in "our day", pop/commercial was fundamentally different than it is today. And back in "our day", pop/commercial was fundamentally different than it was in 1950. Guess what? All the old people in 1985 thought music sucked then too. It's all relative. :party:
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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:27 pm
V0RT3X wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:25 pm
harryupbabble wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:39 pm
learnkeys wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:30 pm
There's no such thing as "natural talent", it's called being taught at a young age and practicing long hours.
This guy might have "natural talent". He can recite Pi to over 22,000 digits from memory and learn new languages in record time. He can play for 3 people in a game of blackjack and compute it so that all three people end up with twenty-one.

Yah well the only problem with people like that is that they usually go crazy with the world before age 40 unless they constantly have something highly intelligent to do .

and they never get to know the pleasure of another body rubbing against their own.
Always bringing the conversation back to frottage :scared:

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IncarnateX wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:24 pm
@learnkeys. Somewhere in this mess you suggest that working in front of a computer is not hard physical work?

As if office workers do not suffer as much from stress as carpenters? And as if they do not suffer from strong headaches, damaged backs, necks and wrists due to hard static positions and repetitive movements? Further, real hard work is a mental thing too, people are stressed by different factors and have different degrees of resilience to stress.

Read like you are trolling or really have no clue.
I think you should try and spend a day doing some hard labor and you may change your tune.

You probably drag your feet just taking out the garbage, if you do it at all. :hihi:

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learnkeys wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:40 pm I think you should try and spend a day doing some hard labor and you may change your tune.
And I think you should quit smoking crack, get out of that trailer and seek a job before mom returns with more customers to do the hard work.

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ok so should I lock this now seeing how it's not staying on topic?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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One of the things that has most definitely changed in the brave new world of digital music production is the lack of human interaction :wink:
No auto tune...

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youre too lazy to lock it :P
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yeah you're right, where's my bh?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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bh? ban hammer? :o
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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:08 pm
starise wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:43 pm
Some people don't agree
those people are wrong.
I disagree with both of you

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Aliens wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:08 pm
starise wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:43 pm
Some people don't agree
those people are wrong.
I disagree with both of you
as is your right as an alien.
as an alien, you are not "people".
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I agree :lol:

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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:58 pm youre too lazy to lock it :P
:lol:
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:03 pm bh? ban hammer? :o
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EnochLight wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:21 pm
Actually, that's just you being an old man. :lol: :lol: :lol: Commercial music today has plenty of awesome stuff out there, as well as garbage, just like it did in the 1970's/80's/90's.

It's just that old people like you don't like the genres of music that are now considered commercial/pop. Back in "our day", pop/commercial was fundamentally different than it is today. And back in "our day", pop/commercial was fundamentally different than it was in 1950. Guess what? All the old people in 1985 thought music sucked then too. It's all relative. :party:
Well, I don't know if you read my follow up to my thinking on all this on page 5 here, as why I make this audial observation..

In any case, for myself and I'd guess for majority of the UK population, commercial pop music in the 80's and 1990's was different with a TV show like 'Top Of the Pops' which was on almost 52 weeks of the year (whilst you guys in America were busy watching ' The Price is Right'). Sure, back in the 80's, there was some questionable acts of music and hum drum drivel which wasn't to my taste, but as least it was different and in a better way than it is now and been for the past 10 years.

Where's this good commercial music you speak of ? I hope it's not Ed -effing Sheran, you relate that to... lol..

For myself, the burning desire to create music was right there from the age of 8...with my Casio SK1, whilst my brothers played pop music 16 hours a day almost every day, I taught myself how to play the keyboard...my dad played 5 instruments with the main one being the acoustic 6 string guitar and also the organ I hammered away on from the age of 2. There is definitely something in my DNA that relates to producing music, whist for others, it's been more about listening although saying that, my sister can read music notation whilst playing the piano.

My own taste in music is pretty wide and diverse growing up, but there is something fundamentally wrong with how music has evolved over the past decade.

I still enjoy listening to classical music that was composed several hundred years ago...
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