Kilohearts new plugin Multipass to be released November 13th

[pekbro]

@jens,

I haven't checked in a while tbh, no I've never gotten a voucher from them ever.

[jens]

I get them via snail-mail, so if you're not in Europe that might make a difference.

But anyway: System is an incredibly deep, flexible and powerful modular System. If Multipass could load Snapheap and Snapheap could load Multipass Kilohearts would already offer a lot more in regards to modular power. But as it is it's really very weak.

[Kalamata Kid]

I have the Works and barely ever use any of these... I find these too limited in all regards - the individual processors on their own and the two modular hosts as a modular system.

The Hofa System totally pisses all over Kilohearts in all regards, is WAY cheaper and in fact multitouch capable.

https://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/hofa-system/

In Hofa System I have to make my own multi-band modular setup?
I did not see "can host VST fx"

Great multi-touch and the GUI's looks good.

[jens]

No, just like Multipass (and Snapheap) it can only host its own proprietary plugins (and like the Kilohearts ones, these are available as VSTs too).

The free basic package has already quite a few good plugins (partly limited versions of the paid bundles) and it's the full modular host so you can start right away.

There's quite a few presets to get you started.

You can use any kind of combination of serial, parallel, mono, stereo, mid/side, feedback-chain and multiband

You can nest any number of plugins and nests.

(so you could e.g. have two parallel chains of two serial multibands with some of these bands having feedback, some being mid-side, some having two (or more) serial plugins, some being mid/side (perhaps with e.g. only the side being feed back into itself - or whatever else - there really is no limit).


You can fold any combination of nests. You can fold any combination of folders. It's incredibly powerful - like mind-boggingly powerful. (Did I mention the modulation yet?)

Multipass really is a poor joke in comparison.

[MogwaiBoy]

So how does it work, exactly? I own a bunch of the cheaper "Snapin" plugins from Kilohearts like Reverser, Trance Gate etc as well as the free ones - would I be limited to ONLY these in Multipass?

So Multipass is really just a multiband version of the free Snapheap?

[Kalamata Kid]

jens,

Use the Mixbus in a similar way as the Mulitpass HY-MBMFX2 and MB-7
https://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/hofa-system/mixbox/
or there is another module to use or several to group together
to get the same results?

I am leaning more towards BlueCat MB-7 because it can host VSTfx.
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_MB7Mixer/

[jens]

Here's the free Basic:

https://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/hofa-system/basic/

This includes the full host.

It can look like this:


or this:

[pekbro]

Another one to consider for VST hosting is Freestyle from New Sonic Arts.

Freestyle

[Kalamata Kid]

I really like the KiloHearts Multipass GUI and how it is organized and has x-y pads
Not multi-touch and cannot host third party VST's. The sale price for it and the coming'
sale on the Works make it very inviting.

I like HY-MBMFX2 for the low price! Great bargain! Cannot host third part VST's
Not sure if it is multi-touch capable.

I like HOFA but as far as see the multi-band that separates the frequencies is
not as organised as the other three mentioned here. Yea the modules look and sound great
and it is multi-touch capable but will pass on it. I may have missed something in HOFA
or some other Multi-band VST. Please let me know.

In the end what I really want in a multi band VST is mostly included in
BlueCat MB-7 because it can host third party VSTfx. A very important feature for me
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_MB7Mixer/
Unfortunately it is not multi-touch capable.
Dang, Can't locate the list of the 28 included modules.
I believe I saw a sale of this for $83. If so where and when does it end?

[jens]

I really like the KiloHearts Multipass GUI and how it is organized and

I like HOFA but as far as see the multi-band that separates the frequencies is
not as organised as the other three mentioned here.

It can't be, because it is by far not as limited. All the others have a fixed architecture, Hofa System does not. It is truly modular. I guess you could say it's kind of a cross between something like Reaktor and a multi-fx.

There's a lot of typical stuff, a lot of routings required for rather standard solutions you simply can not do in Multipass. I dare you however to come up with a signal-path that you can not set up in Hofa System.

[Kalamata Kid]

I have Bidule that offers me unlimited routing between the Bidule modules and the third party VSTi and VSTfx. Bidule is a stand alone, VSTi and a VSTfx. https://www.plogue.com/products/bidule.html

For now I want a multi band plugin. And if it can host VST's like BlueCat MB-7 I will be able to use Bidule inside MB-7 and do crazy routing. It may even be beneficial to open MB-t inside Bidule. But for now I want a plugin that specializes on multi band.

Thanks for suggesting HOFA. Perhaps one day I may also get Hofa.

[jens]

Yes, the Bluecat stuff is certainly ace as well. I am not familiar with MB-7, however in Axiom you can load both Late Replies and Axiom anywhere (and Late Replies in Late Replies), which is crazy powerful. So I would assume you can also load MB-7 in MB-7.

Bidule is certainly great, but I don't think it shares a lot of common ground with Hofa System. As far as I understood it it's a completely different thing for completely diffrent applications.

[Blue Cat Audio]

Yes, the Bluecat stuff is certainly ace as well. I am not familiar with MB-7, however in Axiom you can load both Late Replies and Axiom anywhere (and Late Replies in Late Replies), which is crazy powerful. So I would assume you can also load MB-7 in MB-7.

The MB-7 Mixer plug-in does not have a built-in self included like Axiom, PatchWork or Late Replies, but you can definitely load the VST (or VST3 or AU) version into itself... But well... 7 bands should already be enough! .

[c_voltage]

Hi
Folks anyone tried to run it in Studio one ? Just i check Multipass trial recently, and found lack of sidechain in studio one (but v3, no has v4), that strange, while in little brother Snap Heap sidechain is visible and works ok.
Win10 64bit

[nusound mind]

Price has nothing to do with it as long as the quality of MultiPass is high. One can not gauge the price against any other effects because there are no other products designed to do exactly what this does. It's more than just an effects plugin, it's more of a concept. I understand that MB-7 is a multiband mixer that can host VST plugins and that's all cool and everything, but if you look at this product, the beauty of it, is in the fact that all of the modules are available to easily edit and that makes the workflow a lot easier which in my opinion gives you the edge as far as creativity and experimenting is concerned. To me, it's a tool that allows you to easily paint the audio spectrum with a pallet of effects. This is pretty cool. I have to try this out.

lettuce know your verdict when you have usedi t

Cool. I'll let you guys know tomato.

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