FL Studio 5, when?

[GenoX]

...lotsa stuff...

and that is why fruity is already on a long, slow road to oblivion.

hard but somehow true words imho.

Fruity is on that road together with cubase, logic, sonar, orion, tracktion, etc. etc. etc.

But i can give you a def. yes to their policy to give out only a few small crumbs (like most of the major sequencer developers do). Fruity is not lacking on innovation but basics in VSTi implementation like latency compensation and realtime render output. Also there is after that long time still no better MIDI implementation (only the way over the MIDI out plugin) at least the Modulationwheel and the Aftertouch have to let through directly to the VST(i) imho .

I hope with the FLS V(higher than 4.5.2) this will be implemented. As long as FLS lack in these features they won't play on the major league; at least not on the top ranks.

Nevertheless FLS rox and is an easytouse host.

I just hope the step to the next "lifetime free update" version will not cost alot again. Else they would reach the top ranks in the major league.. not in features but in pricing.

my two cents

[Stupid American Pig]

I think I am going to make a host- it will be called "developer will bow down to every individual users whim for feature requests no matter what- Big League PRO edition"

It will kick ass, I will have every feature ever conceived no matter what the cost on performance or workflow. I will let idle threats of end users saying my app wont be pro unless I add this feature scare me into bowing to their every wish. I will blame my poor programming for the fact that some people cant finish an album, and overlook the fact that its probably that the user has no talent...

[ouroboros]

I think I am going to make a host- it will be called "developer will bow down to every individual users whim for feature requests no matter what- Big League PRO edition"

It will kick ass, I will have every feature ever conceived no matter what the cost on performance or workflow. I will let idle threats of end users saying my app wont be pro unless I add this feature scare me into bowing to their every wish. I will blame my poor programming for the fact that some people cant finish an album, and overlook the fact that its probably that the user has no talent...

[GenoX]

you're right S_A_P... but if a host don't achive basic features like full base level MIDI support(modwheel, aftertouch) without any need of a plugin .. erm.. sorry.

I'm not talking about scoring, latency compensation, video sound mixing etc etc (these are nice to haves)... just some basics.

You're right there are enough users blame the developers for the lack of talent the user have compensating this frustration in blaming for the lack od features. Well but a untalented user will not produce good music with FLS, Orion, Logic, Cubase, Tracktion, EnergyXT, etcetc.. to make it short: on every host anyway. It's as mentioned before just a question of useability and basic things i miss in some hosts, especially FLS.

My personal dream is an Orionloops Platinumproducer

I mainly use FLS and Orion and both are great products but i don't like their policy to provide free lifetime updates on one side and raising money for small "nice-to-have but not really important for everyone farts" on the other .


Take a look at Orion Platinum. It reaches almost 300€ now. Also FLS (without the additional stuff) is tending more and more to that price. I don't want to hook up the quality of software on the money i have to spend. Orion and FLS are worth their money no question. But i fear in future it won't keep on that level but getting more and more expensive for some goodies that are not really important.

It is ok to pay a lil' fee for every major jump/upgrade but in some time the price reaches the expensive major host's and there is a breakpoint imho. For a compareable price i should get also compareable features, shouldn't i?

I'm happy so far with FLS and OrionPlatinum and hope the best for the future of these hosts.

[Cabinfever]

funny s-a-p. but just read the thread next time and maybe it will be relevant as well

[digitalstasis]

brand new: FL K-v-R Edition

[skOre]

I'm sorry, but BLABLABLABLA

Can we please get back to all say the same, right thing?

"All hosts have their errors.
Its up to the user to decide anyways.
Its not about the program, but what you make of it.
If you don't like it, switch.
If you do like it, but you were made mad about some 'feature' you didn't need before, but now think you couldn't ever live without it, _you_ are the one who needs some serious updates."


I just hope that they will really put Surround sound in it, as it is the very future of mixing. The Midi-Stuff, yeah, its bothering sometimes, I just set up two MidiOuts to handle all the 128 CCs, so what?
If any program would lack this part of working, what would YOU do whenever you feel this "can't do anything creative"-mood.

Besides, I didn't buy the Lifetime Free Upgrades. Mainly because I have no MasterCard and couldn't get BankWire to work... I'm not sure if I will buy it, I guess I will wait for the next release

[Cabinfever]

so skore, everything is "blab blab" and "switch if you don't like it" except for the list of things *you* think is important

i get very tired of seeing this inane "switch if you don't like it" line. its the same simplistic notion as rednecks use who scream at protestors "if you don't like this country then leave".

people making comments about what they think should be improved is one of the fundamental aspects of the development of human civilisation

got it ?

[Stupid American Pig]

funny s-a-p. but just read the thread next time and maybe it will be relevant as well

Just relax Cabin- I was just doing alil bit of late night trolling. Maybe you guys are right and FL does need PDC and loop recording- but the tone of some of these threads borders on ridiculous, and it makes it seem as this were the end of the world. If you are a FL user you know the devs, and you know that sarchasm and threats are not going to motivate them to do something.

[Carbonboy]

note how they disappeared from here once loop recording was mentioned ? imagine the early days - of course there would have been a response; a robust discussions; ideas back & forward.

No,They disappeared from this thread when people got rude and started with personal attacks.

No, both wrong, they are all at a FL Developers conference...they will re-emerge this week sometime.

Carb.

[dexters lab]

funny s-a-p. but just read the thread next time and maybe it will be relevant as well

Maybe you guys are right and FL does need PDC and loop recording.

ah,and the truth comes out!

but whatever JMC,how about another sneak peek, eh?

[Stupid American Pig]

funny s-a-p. but just read the thread next time and maybe it will be relevant as well

Maybe you guys are right and FL does need PDC and loop recording.

ah,and the truth comes out!

but whatever JMC,how about another sneak peek, eh?

Creative use of quoting there dex

since FL is basically my drum machine, I really couldnt care less about those features, I have a "Big league PRO" host that will do the above...

[Target D]

OK, only been using FLStudio for about a year and a half or so properly now - used to use Impulse Tracker So these suggestions can be seen as questions too....

1) The ability to add swing to individual patterns ; the ability to add swing to individual instruments/channels rather than the entire pattern; the ability to change the type of swing. I think there is some kind of swing option (humanise?) in the Piano Roll feature, but I don't necessarily want to use the Piano Roll all the time.

2) Increasing performance when using multiple piano rolls: Is it just me, or do long and complex piano rolls seem to slow down playback?

3) In the mixer - when you send channels to one of the 'Send' channels, simply having the channel on seems to alter the sound - even if no plugins are open in the Send Channel. A bug, or just a quirk of my computer?

Sound quality wise I think FLStudio is excellent - particularly if you're using the right set of plugins for EQ, compression, limiting etc. The more I use it the more I want to continue using it till I've mastered it. No point swapping and changing software all the time, you'd never learn anything properly.

[dexters lab]

funny s-a-p. but just read the thread next time and maybe it will be relevant as well

Maybe you guys are right and FL does need PDC and loop recording.

ah,and the truth comes out!

but whatever JMC,how about another sneak peek, eh?

I have a "Big league PRO" host that will do the above...

and it is called?

[dexters lab]

OK, only been using FLStudio for about a year and a half or so properly now - used to use Impulse Tracker So these suggestions can be seen as questions too....

1) The ability to add swing to individual patterns ; the ability to add swing to individual instruments/channels rather than the entire pattern; the ability to change the type of swing. I think there is some kind of swing option (humanise?) in the Piano Roll feature, but I don't necessarily want to use the Piano Roll all the time.

2) Increasing performance when using multiple piano rolls: Is it just me, or do long and complex piano rolls seem to slow down playback?

3) In the mixer - when you send channels to one of the 'Send' channels, simply having the channel on seems to alter the sound - even if no plugins are open in the Send Channel. A bug, or just a quirk of my computer?

Sound quality wise I think FLStudio is excellent - particularly if you're using the right set of plugins for EQ, compression, limiting etc. The more I use it the more I want to continue using it till I've mastered it. No point swapping and changing software all the time, you'd never learn anything properly.

Hmmm what you mentioned about the swing would be nice,i wonder if that is actually possible? [can it be implemented without having to re-write anything major]?