Presonus Studio One Pro 4

[kevvvvv]

Igro

In a pattern editor you can have many various takes and choose the best one. Very very cool feature.

I agree. V cool feature indeed.

I always ignored Impact until all this pattern editing and impact XT turned up.

Now every 4 bars can be different yet part of the same. I'm using it for everything.

Bye bye Battery et al.

And the chord track is amazing too.

If I want to try a piece ending a bar on Am instead of C major or say Dm, then flip switch. Done.

And it works automatically on every track selected.

This makes me more musically adventurous as changing one chord across say 8 tracks used to take forever so it never happened.

Now it's a snap.

What a creative set of tools for tune writers

[Igro]

Igro

In a pattern editor you can have many various takes and choose the best one. Very very cool feature.

I always ignored Impact until all this pattern editing and impact XT turned up.

Hah, I'm in the same situtaion. I never used the Impact-XT before. I never used samples even. But I'm going to get a "Complete Drums" by Wave Alchemy with it's 24 000 drum samples, just because how fast you can work with them now in S4. Every line in a pattern has it's own channel in a mixer for the furher independent processing.

[Trancer]

Thank you for all your feedback.

Studio One Pro 4 seems to have had an excellent evolution and is becoming more interesting and full of tools for the production of electronic music, there is still a way to go, but, Presonus delights me with this choice and I hope is not going to stop in such a good way.

Not sure, but it would integrate Acid 's loop system and improve existing Studio One Pro 4 products, it should be a must.

A classic Daw and a loop sequencer, a perfect hybridization.

A classic Daw and a dedicated sequencer, it could be the best Daw, all in one.

Presonus if you hear me ....

[bundoo]

Studio One is excellent because of it's simplicity IMO.

Things I'd like:

Drag and drop effects to clip / region without having to enable this in the inspector

Fade handles on impact samples - ADSR is fairly antiquated in its functionality

Tape style timestretch with alt drag - or pitch process without time compensation

Those would just about do it for me.

[chk071]

Studio One is excellent because of it's simplicity IMO.

Yep. It's streamlined, and it takes less clicks to get where you want to. Those are the main things I like about it.

[lfm]

No sysex ?

Sadly no - not even recognizing F0-F7 sequence and ignore what is inside.
I takes various bytes in sysex and interpret as something else in controllers.

So I'm looking at getting a plugin to at least send sequences I already have on disk.

ReaControlMidi seems like a start where you can enter in hex what to send.

But the simple thing I used in Reaper, Sonar and Cubase - just an early clip with sysex before song starts - is not possible.

It's been requested since years back - but it was so far only 53 votes for sysex.

Another good feature - midi event list - to see all midi code in there in rows - also missing. That request had at least 128 votes.

Not sure what vote count is needed to get on todo list though.

The weirdest parts I discovered so far in S1 was implementation of midi ports. If having gear with own manuals you want to use - you have to set up two midi configs. You can select both input and output ports for an Instrument config - but you never get inputs listed for a track/instrument - only among outputs. You can see in filter monitor that you receive input and from what port - but no way to select it for a track.

[EnGee]

Studio One is excellent because of it's simplicity IMO.

Yep. It's streamlined, and it takes less clicks to get where you want to. Those are the main things I like about it.

Damn KVR! Just keep in the back of my mind "Buy it! Buy it! Buy it!" Ok!! I bought the damn thing!

I'm cure of GAS! Yeah! Right!

Anyway, for $169 (from JRR Shop), it is really very difficult to resist. From buying to registering it and downloading took less than one minute Oh well, it is good to meet another old friend! I hope I can manage my time and projects between those three fine DAWs

[chk071]

I guess I will regret the weekend as well... I actually didn't want to spend more money, but, so many tempting offers.

On the good side, I resisted to upgrade my Cubase Artist 9 license to Artist 10. Which is good, because I wouldn't use it anyway.

[EnGee]

I sold my Cubase (9.5 Pro) and with its money I'm buying all these things

Well, I did immediately changed the lightness of the theme to the "darkest hour". Nothing else to change just adding two or three folders to the browsers.

Anyway, I have a problem with the Exchange server! I'm trying to downloading some Patch names but it always fails. Is the Exchange server still working? I need the Battery and Addictive drums patches names (I had them somewhere, but it is easier to just download them from the server).

[lfm]

I just tested a Cubase project I did with video.
a) did a Cubase archive
b) imported into S1
c) imported video into S1 and set offset to same, 8s.

All sync up real nice, tempo track is there, markers in the right spot as well as clips.
And it sync perfect to jumping between markers - I get to every scene.
And best of all - virtually no cpu is used - something like 0-6% playing it back.

Cubase with it's own video engine player - it used 36% doing the same thing.
With all respect it has thumbnails and stuff, but still(those had their minutes to to create and not taking cpu of course).
I've been running with VidPlayVst player inside Cubase with 16% total cpu(could still be used if using more than one video in a daw).

In Reaper using VLC player it was not that smooth at all, felt real clumpsy and slow in syncing. Reaper felt real heavy doing that(tested 5.4 this summer).

So S1 behaves as light as it feels - just instant everything - highly optimized.

[EnGee]

How is ATOM as a controller? It is cheap but is it any good? It is only available online here, so I can't test it. Are the pads stiff? or sensitive?

I'm watching the videos about it, and I really like what I see! I like its size and simplicity. I wish there is a Push mini like it to work with Live! I think I'll order it

[kevvvvv]

Trancer

Have you seen Atom yet?

https://www.presonus.com/products/ATOM-Pad-Controllers

This is the loop trigger jamming tool to complement the timeline style sequencing.

I'm expecting mine to arrive today or tomorrow.

Ableton meets S1!

[producer7]

Hey Kevv, im just wondering if youd recommend this upgrade to a current 3.5 user that does mostly audio and a little bit of midi? I read the thread at gearslutz, and that had me avoiding it like the plague, but reading some of your comments im intrigued again.

Pointless background info: I used Nuendo since the day it hit the market and moved onto S1 when Hanz closed the studio and moved back to germany. Since the license went with him, it wasnt worth it for me to shell out $1700 when i no longer had any interest in doing post production. I think that was around the mid point of Studio One version 2.
I never really did fall in love with S1. There are just some little things that bug me, that makes it a little tiresome to use. Visual stuff, minor stuff, subjective, but never the less.....For instance, mute/solo on the wrong side of the fader, mute/solo wrong colors, border lines sometimes too thin, overall color selection poor- too pastel.

Anyway i took a break from my home studio for the summer and S1 version 4 was released unbeknownst to me, and now....well the price is right.
You seem really happy but i had to wonder your thoughts on the jump being worth the time and effort if im mainly doing audio?

[Trancer]

Kevvvvv

I actually looked Atom, it looks pretty rudimentary, but a good start.

I will be happy to read your opinion about this controller.

[kevvvvv]

producer7

Thanks for asking.

I'm v biased and love presonus stuff, so do take me with a pinch of salt

The upgrade to v4 is musical.

I can do better tunes and better drums. My stuff sounds better for it musically. I'm happier with my work.

I also think a DAW is like a wife. You gotta go with what she's doing and keep up with her, or it'll fizzle.

Here's some v4 reviews.



They're interesting to watch, so you could spend a pleasant 1/2 an hour just checking them out.

You'll also feel genuine enthusiasm there from old pros, especially Russ Hughes, who is one of the few bullshit-free zones on the whole of youtube.

Good luck.