Presonus Studio One Pro 4 or Bitwig 2.4 ?

[ATN69]

If you didn't enjoy Live then I doubt you will enjoy Bitwig. There is a clear relationship between Bitwig and Live, same as there is a connection between Cubase and Studio One. As far as I read, some of the developers who made Bitwig actually been a part of the development of Live. Bitwig has similar workflow as Live.

I have Bitwig but decided not to update it after 1.3. I basically don't use Bitwig because I didn't take to the workflow. I have Live lite and found the same thing there. Having said that, Bitwig seems to be a great DAW in many aspects and especiallt for those who like that kind of workflow.

I been working in Cubase many years ago. Back then a DAW was a new thing. When I decided to get Studio One I managed to get right into it. For me Studio One is more intuitive and it have all the functions needed. It was a guy I know who is a pro DJ and producer who convinced me to take a look at Studio One and I don't regret it. My main DAW is still FL Studio which I know quite well, but Studio One is gaining ground.

All above is as always highly personal opinions and that's what it comes down to. Every DAW have it's good and bad sides but when I saw your comments about Live 9 I would suggest you to take a closer look at Studio One.

[Trancer]

Thank you so much for your valuable feedback.

Bitwig even if similar to Live I like better than the latter.

I like the interface better and Bitwig has specificities including his specialty modulations that I particularly appreciate. Moreover Bitwig has an anti-crash and it's a blessing.

I do not criticize Live at all here, I specify.

In addition, Push 2 works and apparently very well with Bitwig.

Now, the evolution of Studio One Pro 4, even if not quite at the top yet, it must be honest reserve of excellent surprise and as already said opens and begins to fill this lack for use in the context to produce electronic music and it's a real pleasure.

Yes, it looks like Cubase, however, Cubase should be inspired for the ergonomics and interface where Cubase is anything but the best on.

[voidhead23]

The main difference is that Biwig/Live/FL Studio give you alternative way to arrange and play music. Those three also can be used in live performance as opposed to S1/Cubase/Logic ... etc in the studio.

I don't believe about genres being composed with a specific DAW! I still can make Rock music in Ableton Live and Bitwig! I also can use Cubase or S1 for EDM!

It's all about preference. Just use what clicks with you. They are all the same

you are correct by saying about music genres are not specific DAW property but at the same time Ableton and Bitwig companies advertise their products as a electronic music machine..
look at youtube and you ll see that these companies dont have Rock bands doing music on their DAW's but always EDM musicians cooking EDM samples.
friendly speaking cheers mate

It also makes a difference when those companies are specifically designing tools for certain areas, features that only matter in those areas, and whether or not that tool will offer things in the future that will work for what you're doing.

In my case, i adore Live but it's clearly not designed for what i want to use it for, and actually throws up hurdles i have to jump over to accomplish my ideas, mainly, having to turn off my monitoring so i can double-track guitars, resampling constantly to evade insane DSP usage because i'm using modern amp sims, and using odd meters in the session view to sketch without it creating problems in the arrangement, forcing me to abandon this great tool once the intro is done. This had led me to seriously looking into Logic and Reaper, but, even with these problems, i still have the most fun in Live even though i'm not making EDM.

[pdxindy]

Studio One Pro 4, offers possibilities for electronic music, given its reputation for its ergonomics, intuitiveness, the why, I hesitate between him and Bitwig.

Bitwig and Studio One are rather different and both do a bunch of stuff the other does not.

I use both Bitwig and Logic. Bitwig and S1 would also make a good combo.

I find Bitwig immediate and creative. Bitwig is straightforward for a lot of basic stuff and it is unmatched as a sonic playground.

Whether it is MPE, Eurorack integration, lots of modulations, nested devices... Bitwig's got it.

The Bitwig preset system is solid. You can add a new track and put any synth plus some FX on the track in seconds without touching the mouse or even needing to look at the screen. It is easy and fast to work with multiple midi controllers. Want to put a bit crusher or and EQ in the actual feedback path of the delay, no problem. I don't think any other DAW even offers that. Bitwig has CV devices and you can send CV to analog synths and modular gear.

Haven't even mentioned the Clip Launcher yet...

Bitwig lacks a few things still, that is why I keep a second DAW, but it is developing fast and there is a creative freshness to most of what they do.

[Igro]

I have S4, but Bitwig is very cool as well. But it is better to have 17 inches or higher screen size for it, as its native effects and synths are too tiny for a 15 inches screen.

[SLiC]

Studio One Pro 4, offers possibilities for electronic music, given its reputation for its ergonomics, intuitiveness, the why, I hesitate between him and Bitwig.

Bitwig and Studio One are rather different and both do a bunch of stuff the other does not.

I use both Bitwig and Logic. Bitwig and S1 would also make a good combo.

I find Bitwig immediate and creative. Bitwig is straightforward for a lot of basic stuff and it is unmatched as a sonic playground.

Whether it is MPE, Eurorack integration, lots of modulations, nested devices... Bitwig's got it.

The Bitwig preset system is solid. You can add a new track and put any synth plus some FX on the track in seconds without touching the mouse or even needing to look at the screen. It is easy and fast to work with multiple midi controllers. Want to put a bit crusher or and EQ in the actual feedback path of the delay, no problem. I don't think any other DAW even offers that. Bitwig has CV devices and you can send CV to analog synths and modular gear.

Haven't even mentioned the Clip Launcher yet...

Bitwig lacks a few things still, that is why I keep a second DAW, but it is developing fast and there is a creative freshness to most of what they do.

This is the correct answer
I use Bitwig and Studio One 4

[killmaster]

I didn't get along with Live, but I love Bitwig and feel most comfortable with it over all other DAWs. Like the clip launcher way better in Bitwig. I also have Studio One and outside the new Chord Track, I almost always use Bitwig. But, they are both so great though in their own rites...

[mesfigas]

The main difference is that Biwig/Live/FL Studio give you alternative way to arrange and play music. Those three also can be used in live performance as opposed to S1/Cubase/Logic ... etc in the studio.

I don't believe about genres being composed with a specific DAW! I still can make Rock music in Ableton Live and Bitwig! I also can use Cubase or S1 for EDM!

It's all about preference. Just use what clicks with you. They are all the same

you are correct by saying about music genres are not specific DAW property but at the same time Ableton and Bitwig companies advertise their products as a electronic music machine..
look at youtube and you ll see that these companies dont have Rock bands doing music on their DAW's but always EDM musicians cooking EDM samples.
friendly speaking cheers mate

It also makes a difference when those companies are specifically designing tools for certain areas, features that only matter in those areas, and whether or not that tool will offer things in the future that will work for what you're doing.

In my case, i adore Live but it's clearly not designed for what i want to use it for, and actually throws up hurdles i have to jump over to accomplish my ideas, mainly, having to turn off my monitoring so i can double-track guitars, resampling constantly to evade insane DSP usage because i'm using modern amp sims, and using odd meters in the session view to sketch without it creating problems in the arrangement, forcing me to abandon this great tool once the intro is done. This had led me to seriously looking into Logic and Reaper, but, even with these problems, i still have the most fun in Live even though i'm not making EDM.

If Ableton works for you stay there
for me Reaper works good and its not about money or workflow
its just works
also cubase works for me as well
all of the DAW's are good..just wanted to be good with Bitwig but didnt happened for me
its cool i dont worry

[Trancer]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

The more I read you and consult videos and I agree with some to say, that the combination Bitwig / Studio One Pro 4 are an option and not least and to take into account.

[xbitz]

Bitwig is superior in modulation, so if u like to build custom devices like

or like sound design things

[Proken]

Also depends on your personal preferance. Ive use both And i Both like them, but the workflow from Bitwig is a little bit better IMO. People saying that studio one 4 ‘s better in lineair arrangement is bull, because Bitwig has a nice lineair arrangement to work with. Only thing Bitwig lags is Some nice synths, but you can fill that with Some vst like sylenth or whatever you prefer.

[Trancit]

...People saying that studio one 4 ‘s better in lineair arrangement is bull, because Bitwig has a nice lineair arrangement to work with. ...

No it`s not... and I have both too
Studio One`s arranger track alone is a timesaver, not to speak from integrated melodyne, groove quantizations, macros which combines several processes into one keystroke, better bounce in place possibilties, the chord track... and ... and ...and

Bitwig is it´s own beast, but in terms of arranging stuff Bitwig and Ableton are not able to do even the half of what are linear DAWs are capable of... but that´s logical... it´s their domain, where Bitwig and Ableton shine more in their domain...

[Proken]

...People saying that studio one 4 ‘s better in lineair arrangement is bull, because Bitwig has a nice lineair arrangement to work with. ...

No it`s not... and I have both too
Studio One`s arranger track alone is a timesaver, not to speak from integrated melodyne, groove quantizations, macros which combines several processes into one keystroke, better bounce in place possibilties, the chord track... and ... and ...and

Bitwig is it´s own beast, but in terms of arranging stuff Bitwig and Ableton are not able to do even the half of what are linear DAWs are capable of... but that´s logical... it´s their domain, where Bitwig and Ableton shine more in their domain...

We can argue about that for ages, because both have their tools which is Unique. But concerning arrangement I found that the lineair arrangement feels more natural And better in Bitwig 2 then in studio one 4. All that options is nice, but if it doesnt feel right then you cant fully benefit that options. You have all the basics you really need in Bitwig 2, so its up to TS to decide which is better for HIM.

[Trancit]

...All that options is nice, but if it doesnt feel right then you cant fully benefit that options. You have all the basics you really need in Bitwig 2, so its up to TS to decide which is better for HIM.

This you didn´t wrote before...
You were talking about the possibilities in general being equal...not that you personally like the workflow of Bitwig better

[Proken]

...All that options is nice, but if it doesnt feel right then you cant fully benefit that options. You have all the basics you really need in Bitwig 2, so its up to TS to decide which is better for HIM.

This you didn´t wrote before...
You were talking about the possibilities in general being equal...not that you personally like the workflow of Bitwig better

I wasnt talking about the options either haha. But Bitwig 2 has his cons And pro’s in that area as well as studio one