“Mixing secrets for the small studio” Is it worth it for an edm producer that uses headphones?
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 30 Nov, 2018
I’m looking for some gift ideas for family. Would this be a book that I can use techniques from as a headphone producer? It seems like it is geared for people with monitors and a treated room.
And no I can’t get monitors in my current living situation.
And no I can’t get monitors in my current living situation.
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- KVRAF
- 7104 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Yes, even having monitors - half the book is about listening conditions, kind of.
I had some good input from Producer's manual - Paul White.
Mixing audio - Roey Izhaki - good as well.
Mixing engineer's handbook - Bobby Owsinsky - some good insight in how to think about frequencies and positions and stuff. Was the first one I got.
But not targeting EDM, just general idea which is common to everything.
But always - doing it all in phones still require the more listening in other devices as well - which might make you having to redo final mix a lot. It's very different how things are perceived with two monitors in a room - even near field ones.
But remember from the first Dave Pensado's awards - was a guy that did it all in phones - so can be done of course.
And also find it fascinating with looks into the minds of well known producers
Behind the glass - some oldies and legends like George Martin.
Recording the Beatles( a heavy brick though) - also really extensive in how it worked back in the days.
Detailed info from recording sessions for many songs.
I had some good input from Producer's manual - Paul White.
Mixing audio - Roey Izhaki - good as well.
Mixing engineer's handbook - Bobby Owsinsky - some good insight in how to think about frequencies and positions and stuff. Was the first one I got.
But not targeting EDM, just general idea which is common to everything.
But always - doing it all in phones still require the more listening in other devices as well - which might make you having to redo final mix a lot. It's very different how things are perceived with two monitors in a room - even near field ones.
But remember from the first Dave Pensado's awards - was a guy that did it all in phones - so can be done of course.
And also find it fascinating with looks into the minds of well known producers
Behind the glass - some oldies and legends like George Martin.
Recording the Beatles( a heavy brick though) - also really extensive in how it worked back in the days.
Detailed info from recording sessions for many songs.
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Get Goodhertz Can Opener Studio 3, Sonarworks Reference, and à pair of their supported headphones. The Superlux headphones are about $40. Can Opener Studio 3 + mixing in mono did wonders for me.
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TheSynthScientist TheSynthScientist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=430816
- KVRist
- 290 posts since 29 Nov, 2018
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 30 Nov, 2018
Just making sure the techniques would be the same vs with monitors.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 30 Nov, 2018
So i will still be able to use the techniques and lessons in the book if I don’t have monitors? Sucks that the first half would be a waste for me since I don’t have themlfm wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:10 am Yes, even having monitors - half the book is about listening conditions, kind of.
I had some good input from Producer's manual - Paul White.
Mixing audio - Roey Izhaki - good as well.
Mixing engineer's handbook - Bobby Owsinsky - some good insight in how to think about frequencies and positions and stuff. Was the first one I got.
But not targeting EDM, just general idea which is common to everything.
But always - doing it all in phones still require the more listening in other devices as well - which might make you having to redo final mix a lot. It's very different how things are perceived with two monitors in a room - even near field ones.
But remember from the first Dave Pensado's awards - was a guy that did it all in phones - so can be done of course.
And also find it fascinating with looks into the minds of well known producers
Behind the glass - some oldies and legends like George Martin.
Recording the Beatles( a heavy brick though) - also really extensive in how it worked back in the days.
Detailed info from recording sessions for many songs.
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- KVRAF
- 7104 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I think books are really cheap - and if you just get a single thing you carry with you the rest of your mixing days from reading it - it's worth it.Wildpug wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 am
So i will still be able to use the techniques and lessons in the book if I don’t have monitors? Sucks that the first half would be a waste for me since I don’t have them
There will always be an overlap to things you already know.
I often go to amazon with lots of reviews - and read those for any product at all. In between you find that a reviewer sounds like your thinking in remarks - and go by what he/she says if more extensive text.
Check out the book for this topic or something else(like some or I suggested).
Sometimes reading the content index helps in itself what you can expect to learn - online bookstore usually do this nowadays.
Go to http://www.pensadosplace.tv and check out edm producers and mixers - also well spent time getting insights. Not all - but many share good things.
Producers manual probably had the most of direct techniques. Paul White have been a writing articles on SoundOnSound.com for decades, really experienced.
Like reverse reverbs and stuff - get kick to come at you from outer space and then hit you - blow by blow. I can imagine interesting for kick based music like edm. Especially effectfull in phones - really cool.
It starts out with all of the reverb tail - and then dries out quickly.
A lot of hands on tricks like that in producers manual.
A dutch edm duo(about three years ago) was on Pensado's place - and were asked about how they got that huge sound and still not let reverb take over.
- gated reverbs was their answer
So they cut the tails of reverb - and still get the goodies but it does not take over the mix.