U-he Hardware - CVilization Eurorack Module

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News From The Sky
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162 posts since 20 Oct, 2010

Post Fri May 11, 2018 1:53 pm

I read your description of how it worked and literally laughed out loud. It's brilliant, which is exactly what I would expect from you guys. And I'm not even the least bit interested in Eurocrack, just curious to see what you've been up to.

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KVRist
490 posts since 9 Aug, 2005 from USA

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Post Tue May 15, 2018 10:05 am

News From The Sky wrote:I read your description of how it worked and literally laughed out loud. It's brilliant, which is exactly what I would expect from you guys. And I'm not even the least bit interested in Eurocrack, just curious to see what you've been up to.
Well said.

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foosnark
KVRAF
4448 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

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Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:55 pm

I'm still very much looking forward to this one. Both my Maze and Mimetic Digitalis are in some danger of replacement, for being brilliant modules that I don't actually find myself using much in practice. CVilization may be just the thing to do it. :tu:

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justin3am
KVRAF
10471 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

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Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:20 pm

I've got a 10HP spot reserved in my sequencing case for this. Such an incredibly comprehensive module but it seems very easy to understand.

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Urs
u-he
22713 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

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Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm

After assembly of our first 10 pre-series models (we're very careful with our first design...) was delayed due to a part which wasn't available anymore, this week the soldering of the through hole parts has begun. We should have them next week, which should be incredibly helpful for finalizing and polishing the firmware.

It really is quite a journey.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
38529 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:35 am

Urs wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm
After assembly of our first 10 pre-series models (we're very careful with our first design...) was delayed due to a part which wasn't available anymore, this week the soldering of the through hole parts has begun. We should have them next week, which should be incredibly helpful for finalizing and polishing the firmware.

It really is quite a journey.
:hyper:

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justin3am
KVRAF
10471 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

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Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:48 am

Urs wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm
It really is quite a journey.
I know the feeling. I recently saw the first hardware product, which I designed, come to life. It was an exhausting/exhilarating experience. I wish you all the luck and much success!

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foosnark
KVRAF
4448 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

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Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:05 pm

Urs wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm
a part which wasn't available anymore
It seems like various supply/availability issues have been a real problem the last year or so :neutral:
Urs wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 pm
a We should have them next week, which should be incredibly helpful for finalizing and polishing the firmware.
:tu: Do you have any more hints about what's in the other three modes? If I were to throw together a quick wishlist, it'd include a step sequencer :D

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Urs
u-he
22713 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

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Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:40 am

All with a grain of salt, as we have literally zero feedback due to lack of available test subjects:

The second mode is a sequential switch, or merely, 4 sequencers with up to 8 steps each. Each step can either be a set value (as in a normal sequencer) or an individually attenuated choice of any 4 inputs. Programming works with the 8 encoders, either live or step by step (live mode is tricky, might be dropped). Clocking with just 2 CV/Clock inputs is the hard part - so on top of just clock division and clock iteration, we're experimenting with negative clocks (square LFO...) and different clock thresholds to extract multiple patterns out of one input. If it works out, it'll be available on all modes.

The third mode is what we call a "quad sequence multiplier". It works just like a sequencer, but you can record the input of each track, and more than 8 steps. It's more performance orientated than the 2nd mode. Instead of the manual editing you get randomization/mutation options similar to Turing Machine or Noise Ring. Resetting recalls the originally recorded sequence. It works as "S&H delay" when permanently recording, so your sampled input arrives n clock divisions later at the output. It works as plain S&H for each sequence set to 0 steps. It can also just be a random source, and (IIRC) outputs are normalled to next lane's inputs. Stuff like that, still a bit experimentation required.

The fourth mode is going to be a scanning mixer. But instead of one output which scans through several inputs, it works from the input side. Each input can be "panned" through the 4 outputs, even circular. Panning can either be manual, automatic, randomized or CV controlled. With 96kHz/24bit resolution and +/-10V, this should be suitable as audio mixer for quadrophonic setups.

Each of these modes has all the same quantization (scales), S&H and glide options of the first mode. Well, S&H is inherent to the "Sequence Multiplier".

More modes are possible, of course, but we first want to see how we go with these.

Latency should be well below 1 ms. It's not quite as fast as O_c, but again, that's due to using a 24bit/96kHz converter, allowing for crazy +/- 10V range.

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1740 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

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Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:44 am

Awesome stuff Urs. :)

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vurt
addled muppet weed
38529 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:33 am

ive got tons of rack space if you're looking for test subjects :hihi:

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foosnark
KVRAF
4448 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:11 am

This sounds fantastic. Third mode seems like it could be a lot of fun :)

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Urs
u-he
22713 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:19 am

foosnark wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:11 am
This sounds fantastic. Third mode seems like it could be a lot of fun :)
I can not wait to try it myself. We still only have this single precious prototype, but next week should have a whole bunch of them, some of which should end up in my racks for in depth experimentation.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
38529 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:59 pm

foosnark wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:11 am
This sounds fantastic. Third mode seems like it could be a lot of fun :)
yeah, along with the second "seq" mode, looks like a killer module.
the fourth mode could be great fun too, specially if you have multiple outs, throwing chunks of audio to different fx chains 8)

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Urs
u-he
22713 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

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Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:18 pm

It actually solves two very different problems for me:

1. I want to route and mix and s&h and quantize various means of sequencing to various oscillators/voices. I don't want any more quantizers which aren't quad and which don't have s&h built in. I also don't want to wast half a row on a 4x4 matrix mixer.

2. I love sequential switches, but I dread that they are always 1->4 or 4->1 (or even 8->1). They're bottlenecks. You either give up 3 sources, or you forgo 3 targets. Having a 4<->4 sequential switch ought to solve that issue. Again, 10HP, not half a row.

The other applications are bonus for me. Originally we wanted to make them bread and butter to make it a very "agreeable" module, but then I thought it'd be more consistent and more useful if these were complements to 1 & 2 with different paradigms.

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