What is it about Sylenth1 ?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Indeed, people think that their favorite music is better than other types of music, including classical music if necessary. And as long as they don't claim that that's a fact (in other words that everyone has to agree, because facts can't be denied) that's fine.
For instance, I think Ivan Lins is way better than Beethoven or Mozart, but of course I am aware that Western musicologists (many of those are the real snobs and elitists) won't agree. But it doesn't matter to me because they only focus on a few aspects and neglect many others.
So Lins' music is better to me because it checks more boxes on my list of criteria.
For instance, I think Ivan Lins is way better than Beethoven or Mozart, but of course I am aware that Western musicologists (many of those are the real snobs and elitists) won't agree. But it doesn't matter to me because they only focus on a few aspects and neglect many others.
So Lins' music is better to me because it checks more boxes on my list of criteria.
Last edited by fluffy_little_something on Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106329 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wagtunes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:06 pmI like Coldplay. I also liked The Osmond Brother when they were big in the early 70s.
I also like Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Stravinsky and Mozart.
I also like Dragonforce, Metallica and Ozzy Osborne solo works.
And yeah, I also like Garth Brooks, John Michael Montgomery and Randy Travis.
Not to mention Yes, Genesis, Kansas, Gentle Giant and Renaissance.
None of this stuff, mind you, do I consider superior in quality to Bob Marley or Linkin Park.
You can actually like one thing and not like another thing and not be so full or yourself like FLS that you insist that the thing you like is of better quality than the thing you don't like.
I can't even imagine what it's like being inside his head.
Thank God I'm not like that.
i pity your poor missus if you make her listen to coldplay
im with you, music is a personal thing, we don't necessarily like "good" music, the music we enjoy is often because of the associations with certain songs.
i know for a fact, a lot of the music i enjoy would be considered "bad" music by the majority, even yourself.
lots of it by people who couldn't sing or play, but they had passion.
wesley willis (remember him)
jandek
the shaggs
throbbing gristle
non
need i go on?
ps: the infinite earths question man????
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- KVRAF
- 2167 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
One of the neatest songs that I've ever heard in my life - for decades, vurt! Other favorites from those years: Time/Chamber Brothers; I'd Love to change the world/Ten Years After; Time has come today/Chamber Bros -
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- addled muppet weed
- 106329 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i have to agree.goldenanalog wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:16 pmOne of the neatest songs that I've ever heard in my life -
there is something about it (theres many versions on youtube, all great in their own ways.) its not amazingly difficult to play, but eddie and kidd funkadelic play like virtuosos, you slide along and after 10 minutes, you could still easily take more!
its swampy and funky at the same time, visions of hot summer street parties.
one of those tracks that i can play any time and it fits my mood. perfection.
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It's your use of the word "better" that I find offensive, elitist and snobbish. And that's the problem.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:10 pm Indeed, people think that their favorite music is better than other types of music, including classical music if necessary. And as long as they don't claim that that's a fact (in other words that everyone has to agree, because facts can't be denied) that's fine.
For instance, I think Ivan Lins is way better than Beethoven or Mozart, but of course I am aware that Western musicologists (many of those are the real snobs and elitists) won't agree. But it doesn't matter to me because they only focus on a few aspects and neglect many others.
So Lins' music is better to me because it checks more boxes on my list of criteria.
Imagine this exchange between two people.
Joe: What you listening to?
John: The Carpenters
Joe: Ewwww. The Carpenters? They suck. how can you listen to that sissy stuff?
John: I like it.
Joe: Yeah, well I listen to Def Leopard and they're a thousand times better than The Carpenters. Ewww.
In essence, Joe is looking down on John for listening to The Carpenters and making fun of him for listening to that music. Joe is making John feel culturally inferior for listening to The Carpenters.
That's how you come off to me when you say that Music X is better than Music Y. You're looking down on people who like Music Y like your taste is better than theirs.
That you can't see this is sad, but not surprising.
That's how most elitist snobs think.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106329 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 21203 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Infinite Earths? I want to know which one has me as a successful musician so I can switch places with him.vurt wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:13 pmwagtunes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:06 pmI like Coldplay. I also liked The Osmond Brother when they were big in the early 70s.
I also like Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Stravinsky and Mozart.
I also like Dragonforce, Metallica and Ozzy Osborne solo works.
And yeah, I also like Garth Brooks, John Michael Montgomery and Randy Travis.
Not to mention Yes, Genesis, Kansas, Gentle Giant and Renaissance.
None of this stuff, mind you, do I consider superior in quality to Bob Marley or Linkin Park.
You can actually like one thing and not like another thing and not be so full or yourself like FLS that you insist that the thing you like is of better quality than the thing you don't like.
I can't even imagine what it's like being inside his head.
Thank God I'm not like that.
i pity your poor missus if you make her listen to coldplay
im with you, music is a personal thing, we don't necessarily like "good" music, the music we enjoy is often because of the associations with certain songs.
i know for a fact, a lot of the music i enjoy would be considered "bad" music by the majority, even yourself.
lots of it by people who couldn't sing or play, but they had passion.
wesley willis (remember him)
jandek
the shaggs
throbbing gristle
non
need i go on?
ps: the infinite earths question man????
My only beef with this season is Tom Cavanagh's character is probably the least interesting, for me anyway, of all of them so far. Other than that, great season.
- KVRAF
- 21203 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
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- addled muppet weed
- 106329 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 21203 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yeah, this is gonna be messed up. Really looking forward to it.
As for the fascist Earth, sometimes I wonder how far away we are from that here. LOL.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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That may be your type of dialog, but not mine.wagtunes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:21 pmIt's your use of the word "better" that I find offensive, elitist and snobbish. And that's the problem.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:10 pm Indeed, people think that their favorite music is better than other types of music, including classical music if necessary. And as long as they don't claim that that's a fact (in other words that everyone has to agree, because facts can't be denied) that's fine.
For instance, I think Ivan Lins is way better than Beethoven or Mozart, but of course I am aware that Western musicologists (many of those are the real snobs and elitists) won't agree. But it doesn't matter to me because they only focus on a few aspects and neglect many others.
So Lins' music is better to me because it checks more boxes on my list of criteria.
Imagine this exchange between two people.
Joe: What you listening to?
John: The Carpenters
Joe: Ewwww. The Carpenters? They suck. how can you listen to that sissy stuff?
John: I like it.
Joe: Yeah, well I listen to Def Leopard and they're a thousand times better than The Carpenters. Ewww.
In essence, Joe is looking down on John for listening to The Carpenters and making fun of him for listening to that music. Joe is making John feel culturally inferior for listening to The Carpenters.
That's how you come off to me when you say that Music X is better than Music Y. You're looking down on people who like Music Y like your taste is better than theirs.
That you can't see this is sad, but not surprising.
That's how most elitist snobs think.
Telling someone that their favorite music sucks or is sissy stuff is a type of language aimed at hurting or insulting someone. Saying that one finds x better than someone else's favorite band or music is pretty neutral, though.
I have such conversations with my brother occasionally. He knows I can't stand his favorite genre and I know he can't stand mine. We simply say when we don't like a given song. But I never tell him the music he likes and makes is sissy stuff or sucks.
- KVRAF
- 21203 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
It still comes across the same way to me.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:32 pmThat may be your type of dialog, but not mine.wagtunes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:21 pmIt's your use of the word "better" that I find offensive, elitist and snobbish. And that's the problem.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:10 pm Indeed, people think that their favorite music is better than other types of music, including classical music if necessary. And as long as they don't claim that that's a fact (in other words that everyone has to agree, because facts can't be denied) that's fine.
For instance, I think Ivan Lins is way better than Beethoven or Mozart, but of course I am aware that Western musicologists (many of those are the real snobs and elitists) won't agree. But it doesn't matter to me because they only focus on a few aspects and neglect many others.
So Lins' music is better to me because it checks more boxes on my list of criteria.
Imagine this exchange between two people.
Joe: What you listening to?
John: The Carpenters
Joe: Ewwww. The Carpenters? They suck. how can you listen to that sissy stuff?
John: I like it.
Joe: Yeah, well I listen to Def Leopard and they're a thousand times better than The Carpenters. Ewww.
In essence, Joe is looking down on John for listening to The Carpenters and making fun of him for listening to that music. Joe is making John feel culturally inferior for listening to The Carpenters.
That's how you come off to me when you say that Music X is better than Music Y. You're looking down on people who like Music Y like your taste is better than theirs.
That you can't see this is sad, but not surprising.
That's how most elitist snobs think.
Telling someone that their favorite music sucks or is sissy stuff is a type of language aimed at hurting or insulting someone. Saying that one finds x better than someone else's favorite band or music is pretty neutral, though.
I have such conversations with my brother occasionally. He knows I can't stand his favorite genre and I know he can't stand mine. We simply say when we don't like a given song. But I never tell him the music he likes and makes is sissy stuff or sucks.
You're a snob. That's my opinion and nothing you say is going to change my opinion.
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- KVRAF
- 7863 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I think of Sylenth1 a certain way. There have been new kids on the block since then, but nothing can really replace the original way it hit the market. To me, the big impact that Sylenth1 has made will forever be imitated and talked about.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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I don't even remember that time, that was long before I accidentally discovered that there are plugins in the first place And for the first couple of years I didn't even demo S1 for some reason I don't remember.