DUNE 3 is now available!!

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Pyrotek45
KVRist
407 posts since 4 Nov, 2013

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 am

Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:47 am
Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:19 am
And im still very curious as to what will happen wuth dune 1. If he chooses not to sell it then its fair game to pirate imho.
So every time a developer releases a new version of their plugin they should give the old versions away for free ? That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen at KVR and that is saying a lot. :roll:
You dont read do you? I think he should keep selling it! Buuuut if he decides to not sell it anymore why not give it away if he doesnt plan on making money from it?
~Pyrotek45

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1897 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 am

I miss the old filters in Dune 1. Is it to late for requests? :lol:

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Ghost Dog
KVRist
186 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:00 am

Saukar30 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:12 am
So to all you who dont like the update... have you emailed Synapse about your requests, concerns & crashes? If you respectfully correspond with them they most likely will take action in future. Or do you just wanna be mad & post online?
I'll try not to laugh. :wink:

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Ingonator
KVRAF
12043 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:00 am

SLiC wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:49 am
Ingonator wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:16 am
PietW. wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:58 am
Ingonator wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:17 am
PietW. wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:08 am
I have just imported a waveform from Serum. 32bit, 2048 samples. After the second waveform, DUNE3 has completely crashed with Reaper.
Which OS and Reaper version do you use?
Reaper 5.963 64Bit. The same in Cubase 10. Import a Wave than klick on + and then Crash.
Did not happen during beta testing and doing my own patches.

I shortly checked again with this setup/hosts, again no crash so far:
- OS: Windows 10 64-bit
- 64-bit VST2 in Live 10.0.5
- 64-bit VST2 in Cubase 9.5.41
- 64-bit AAX in Pro Tools Ultimate 2018.10.0

This is with the full/NFR version of DUNE v3.00 (release version).
OK I have checked as I have Cubase 10- no crashes, cant get a crash the way the user above reported.

I have also checked Studio One 4 (latest version) and got no crashes.

For good measure I have also checked Bitwig, VCV Rack (host) and AKAI MPC 2...all worked fine (no crashes) and I tried importing and editing waves in each of them...only thing I can't try is save (demo!!)

So on Windows 10 64 bit seems it seems very stable to me.
I forgot to mention the 64-bit VST2 in NI Maschine 2.7.10 standalone which also works as a VST host. Works nicely there too and also appears as a NKS instrument there like with the Komplete Kontrol software/plugin.
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DAWs: Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 // controller: Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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Ghost Dog
KVRist
186 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:01 am

Halonmusic wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 am
I miss the old filters in Dune 1. Is it to late for requests? :lol:
What do you mean? Those are still available and were also available in D2.

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Touch The Universe
KVRAF
3608 posts since 2 Oct, 2008

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:03 am

I like v.1 filters too. I can't help anyone tell the difference if they can't themselves :(
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Cinebient
KVRAF
4073 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:03 am

I like the Deep Notch. Great for nice kicks and drums.
I thought about the missing LFOs and i maybe can live with it since i also can use OSCs as LFOs.
But yeah...by biggest gripe about Dune 2 exist still in Dune 3. The general workflow is pretty much clicking and switching trough tiny menus and not as fast and intuitive as in other tools. I think here Dune 3 should have been a much better update.
So even as fan from Dune 2 i´m still a bit undecided. I mean there is no other way really beside our money to talk to developers if these request getting ignored further.

jsp1979
KVRAF
3126 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:04 am

If I had a dollar for every post that made a incorrect claim about Dune 3 in this thread, I could buy the synth now.

:wink:

Cinebient
KVRAF
4073 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:06 am

jsp1979 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:04 am
If I had a dollar for every post that made a incorrect claim about Dune 3 in this thread, I could buy the synth now.

:wink:
Useless post as well if you don´t give more info. :)
So what was incorrect actually?
There must be at least 79 things then :D

jsp1979
KVRAF
3126 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:08 am

Or the same few have been repeated 79 times.

Cinebient
KVRAF
4073 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:09 am

jsp1979 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:08 am
Or the same few have been repeated 79 times.
Touche´ :wink:

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Ingonator
KVRAF
12043 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:10 am

Ghost Dog wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:01 am
Halonmusic wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 am
I miss the old filters in Dune 1. Is it to late for requests? :lol:
What do you mean? Those are still available and were also available in D2.
DUNE 3 includes "DUNE 12dB" and "DUNE 24dB" filters besides many other filter modes. The DUNE 1 waveforms are included in the "Legacy" wavetable that was also included in DUNE 2.6.

FWIW both DUNE 1.4 and DUNE 2.6 are still available in my account (and i have downloaded them already) so i could use them side by side with DUNE 3 if needed.
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DAWs: Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 // controller: Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

SynthRatings
KVRer
21 posts since 18 Sep, 2018

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:11 am

Some quick test results about CPU usage compared to Dune 2:
- There seems to be a slight optimization regarding simple patches
- Effects, although improved, uses the same amount of CPU as before
- Complex sounds use around 50% more CPU than before. This could be due to the second filter.
- Unison/layering uses A LOT (several hundred %) more CPU than before. Something seems wrong here
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Cinebient
KVRAF
4073 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:12 am

But i miss good comb-filters. Ah where are the comb-filters (and no, the OSC FX isn´t what i mean).

Dencheg
KVRer
28 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:14 am

Have just tried the demo.
Wanted to say in defence - DnD is not as important for a mod matrix as the way it's presented.
In Dune it's clear, like a simple spreadsheet. You can instantly see rows and columns.
For example, in Hive there is DnD, but you have to take look at each slot of it's mod matrix to check if there are assigned source/dest.
And also for tabbed and layered UI it makes a bit less sense then for one-page UI

Regarding arp - there is a conventional editable step sequencer, and it's fair that the synth doesn't provide MIDI editing for MIDI arps - it's a synth in the end.

Please author(s), make discrete controls work in discrete manner when the mousewheel is used :)
(for step sequencer note level for instance)
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