DUNE 3 is now available!!

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Teksonik
KVRAF
12345 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:28 am

Caine123 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:11 am
Seems many more are not that happy. Im no fanboy of other products but others do better upgrades than synapse atm and i totally trusted them! Not anymore to suck like that and call it v3. And promote presets for a new version :x :hihi:
Thank you for making me look like Nostradamus....... :lol:
Teksonik wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:53 am
When Dune 3 is released that's when the bitching will start. "Why didn't you add the feature I wanted ? Why ? You suuuuuuck".
Anyway....Like D3 ? Buy it. Don't like it ? Don't buy it. I'm pretty sure the world will keep spinning either way.

Ok I'm off to have another play with D3. :wheee:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Urs
u-he
23476 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:28 am

Let's not hijack this thread, but a quick answer:
Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:18 am
So if I may ask how do you or the software know if the license holder isn't sharing that serial number with his friends and their friends etc ? Seems like there would have to be some connection somewhere at some time. But what do I know.... :?

Once a user shares the serial, his friend will share it too. It'll travel. Until it pops up on the web and gets blacklisted in the next update. Not a risk many users seem prepared to take, but we've seen it a couple of times.
Do you license the method or could Synapse use the same system since it seems to be not only popular but effective as well ?
We do not license our stuff away, but we freely share the knowledge and experience with other plug-in developers.

Pyrotek45
KVRist
407 posts since 4 Nov, 2013

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:33 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:18 am
Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:32 am
Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:09 am
Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 am
Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:47 am
Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:19 am
And im still very curious as to what will happen wuth dune 1. If he chooses not to sell it then its fair game to pirate imho.
So every time a developer releases a new version of their plugin they should give the old versions away for free ? That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen at KVR and that is saying a lot. :roll:
You dont read do you? I think he should keep selling it! Buuuut if he decides to not sell it anymore why not give it away if he doesnt plan on making money from it?
Oh yea I did read especially the part about "its fair game to pirate imho". :roll:

Look, obviously Synapse has their reason for pulling D1 and 2. Since neither of us has access to the company books we have no idea if that was a good decision or not. I trust Rich enough to think that yes it was a good business decision to pull them.
Members are asked to respect the copyright of other users, sites, media, etc. Users linking to, asking for information about, or blatantly bragging about using, warez, crackz, pirated sample content, re-printing material without permission, etc. will result in your post being edited / deleted, and you may be issued with a warning and / or a ban.
fix that for you, be aware that this is not the place even if you think you are justified...end of story
mod edit: next time you're suspended
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~Pyrotek45

Stefken
KVRian
974 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:35 am

v1o wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:03 am
Been demoing this all day. It's funny how everyone is preoccupied with moaning and completely missing the fact that this synth just sounds phenomenal. The sound quality on this is breaking new ground. I don't even think there is any hardware synth that can beat Dune 3. DSP usage is also low at least compared to Reveal sound Spire.
Moaning is a lot easier :wink: .
Being carefull for the placebo effect and considering I only played with it for a short time, I'd say Dune 3 sounds better than Dune 2, but only marginally as Dune 2 already sounded very nice.

As for breaking new ground my vote for synth of 2018 goes to Cypher 2 though.
But the default preset of Dune 3 gave me a "wow" effect. I guess that's why they put it as default.
I also like what they did with the EQ and the reverb. So the sound quality is certainly there.
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Frantz
KVRAF
5015 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:35 am

Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:53 am
Frantz wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:25 am
I guess I am the only one who doesn't like the UI pretending it is hardware: a monochrome LCD "screen", wooden end cheeks, wheels, etc. I would prefer if the UI were optimized to be the softsynth it actually is.
You can make your own skin for DUNE 3 that perfectly fits your preferences. The default GUI fits my preferences although I will make some color edits for the dials etc since I don't like red. I love GUIs that "pretend to be hardware" since I grew up using hardware.
Since I hardly have time to do music, I don't have free time to make skins. Besides I like animated waveforms and filters (like Icarus) which is not something you can create in a skin.

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Urs
u-he
23476 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:44 am

Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:33 am
If Richard stops selling dune 1 than it will be abondonware. If people pirate it than no harm done.
You got that wrong there. If you freeload Photoshop 3 because it does all you need, Adobe loses a sale. That is the harm here. Same if you omit buying Dune 3 because "Dune 1 is abandonware, it does all I need". It's a fallacy.

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Hink
Rad Grandad
28295 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:46 am

please stop feeding the pirate discussion...all further posts on the subject will be deleted and subject to suspensions.

edit: thank you urs for your explanation :)
Albert Einstein may have been a genius but his brother Frank was a monster

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JunSev
KVRist
373 posts since 14 Sep, 2017

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:49 am

chk071 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:39 am
JunSev wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:06 am
chk071 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:21 am
JunSev wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:15 am
Wait a minute... can someone explain me how the copy protection of dune 3 works?
Who fuckin' cares?
What a meaningful way to respond to people, ironically from someone that just support copy protection that depends entirely on companies like Ilok/Pace and similars every time possible, and removing the user possibilities to back up their licenses/key independently of companies.

I think that if the entire population were slaves, maybe you will support that too...
I don't support iLok, i support software mechanisms which lock out pirates, and people who steal software. I support healthy companies, which get what they deserve (and that's beneficial for me as a customer in the long run too, because i don't have to pay extra for pissers who steal their stuff). And, if you really were interested in the copy protection, you'd shoot the company an email, instaed of agitating here. Instead, you're doing politics. That's why i asked who fuckin' cares. The only contact partner for your personal issue is the person who wrote the software. I doubt he'd change the code for you though. You're not that important.
What is the problem with talk about serious issues openly? do you think that I don't care about the companies and developers? I do care, and believe me, any honest developer will get my support and my money because they demonstrate they care about those issues and their costumers, and also take care about the different scenarios that the end user might face in a future.

Your blind and nothing helpful conclusion is like punish the users or make the users to pay for the bad practices of some pirates (the pirates are the bad guys, what I have to do with that? Why we can't be independent or more free from companies because some pirates disrespect the developers?).

The pirates are the people that should be blamed and their websites closed, the users doesn't have anything to do with that.

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JunSev
KVRist
373 posts since 14 Sep, 2017

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:50 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:46 am
please stop feeding the pirate discussion...all further posts on the subject will be deleted and subject to suspensions.

edit: thank you urs for your explanation :)
With all respect him, this was just my final response.

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Hink
Rad Grandad
28295 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:52 am

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Albert Einstein may have been a genius but his brother Frank was a monster

AnX
KVRAF
4122 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 am

Richard_Synapse wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:45 pm
DUNE 3 is now available!

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A major evolution of DUNE is finally available: DUNE 3! The new version adds many frequently requested features and comes with a new beautiful Full HD skin (in various sizes)!

Link to the product page:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/dune3.html

Screenshots (Large size):
https://www.synapse-audio.com/layout/sc ... .oscva.jpg [Main View/Keyboard]
https://www.synapse-audio.com/layout/sc ... rpmseg.jpg [Arp/MSEG]

Dual filter

The revised filter section in Dune 3 now sports a dual multimode filter plus an insert effect. Different routing modes like serial/parallel and seamless blend via the Balance knob allow for unlimited creative input! New filter types have been added as well, and include zero-delay feedback filters derived from our latest analog modeling technology. For creative applications, new insert effects like the formant/vowel filter or phaser greatly increase the range of sound design possibilities.

Dual Arpeggiator

Two arpeggiator units instead of just one greatly increase the sound design capabilities of DUNE 3. The Arpeggiators can be programmed independently and support both classic Up/Down arps, as well as playing back different sequences or even MIDI files. Furthermore, new features like the Random mode or programmable Arp Hold make the arpeggiator more powerful than ever before!

Improved oscillators

At the heart of DUNE 3 are its powerful oscillator blocks. DUNE 3 supports VA, FM and Wavetable synthesis. With a maximum reserve of 8320 oscillators at full polyphony, DUNE 3 is a true unison monster, unlikely to ever run out of oscillators. New in DUNE 3 is the "Swarm" mode, an evolution of the classic Supersaw oscillator. Each oscillator gets its own subtle modulation in this mode, breathing a lot more life into the sound than possible previously!

Lots of new FX

DUNE 3 offers many new effect algorithms in all categories, Distortion, Dynamics, Chorus, Phaser, EQ, Delay and Reverb. One of the most important additions is the new Equalizer, which sports technology from our GQ-7 Graphic Equalizer rack extension.

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Designed as a professional mixing and mastering equalizer, the new EQ offers four bands with high-quality parametric and shelving EQs, plus two additional low- and high cut filters with variable slopes. All filters in the EQ are designed to handle modulation without artifacts, such that the EQ can be used for creative purposes outside the realm of traditional EQ applications.

Another great new effect algorithm is the new Shimmer Hall, an exclusive feature of DUNE 3 - ideal for lush ambient sounds, wonderful pads and leads!

Wavetable Editor

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The new Wavetable editor introduced in DUNE 3 is one of the most powerful around. Waveforms can be created via free-hand drawing, segments, a dedicated partial editor or by entering formulas. A variety of functions like morphing, fade in/out, normalize, DC remove, Invert/Reverse make creating new wavetables a breeze. Waveforms and Wavetables can be imported and exported in WAV format and are thus compatible with a wide range of third party software.

Many detail improvements

Other than the major features, DUNE 3 comes with many detail improvements, such as:
  • Undo/Redo for patch editing, as well as the Wavetable Editor
  • MSEG Presets
  • HD Skins
  • Improved polyphonic LFOs, the LFO phase is no longer fixed to zero on each keypress
  • New LFO shape "Random Pulse". Similar to S+H, but random in time
  • "Alternate" source in the Mod Matrix which toggles its state on each keypress
  • "FX Chain Pan" destination in the Mod Matrix allows to pan the two effect busses
  • Performance improvements, some DUNE 2 patches need substantially less CPU
NKS Approved

Like its predecessor, DUNE 3 is NKS-ready. It features support for the LightGuide and its factory library is automatically integrated into Maschine, Komplete Kontrol etc., with all presets properly tagged and a custom parameter map.

DUNE 2 compatibility

Despite the many additions, DUNE 3 is fully patch-compatible with DUNE 2 and contains its entire factory library. Now the total factory library exceeds 1000 patches, all nicely sorted into categories like Arp, Bass, Lead, Pads, Textures etc.

Formats & Pricing

DUNE 3 is available in VST, Audio Unit (32-bit, 64-bit) and AAX (64-bit) formats, for Windows and OS X. It can be purchased for $179 on our shop page, DUNE 2 users can upgrade for only $79:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/shop.html

As always a free 30-day trial is available on the product page:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/dune3.html

congrats on the release Richard, a fine update :tu:

Pyrotek45
KVRist
407 posts since 4 Nov, 2013

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:46 am
please stop feeding the pirate discussion...all further posts on the subject will be deleted and subject to suspensions.

edit: thank you urs for your explanation :)
Jeez i wont mention the "P" word anymore. I still wanna know whats going to happen to dune 1? Will it be sold in the future?
~Pyrotek45

v1o
KVRian
1498 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 am

Urs wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:28 am
Let's not hijack this thread, but a quick answer:
Teksonik wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:18 am
So if I may ask how do you or the software know if the license holder isn't sharing that serial number with his friends and their friends etc ? Seems like there would have to be some connection somewhere at some time. But what do I know.... :?

Once a user shares the serial, his friend will share it too. It'll travel. Until it pops up on the web and gets blacklisted in the next update. Not a risk many users seem prepared to take, but we've seen it a couple of times.
Do you license the method or could Synapse use the same system since it seems to be not only popular but effective as well ?
We do not license our stuff away, but we freely share the knowledge and experience with other plug-in developers.
So in effect you lose your licence if your serial falls into the wrong hands? That sounds illegal. No one would would admit to giving away their serial number, so they will tell you their email account was hacked into and the code was stolen from there.

And also how can you be so sure that no one could use a computer program to randomly generate serials. They are some very smart people out there.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

Stefken
KVRian
974 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 am

Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 am
Jeez i wont mention the "P" word anymore.
You sound like you're talking to your wife. :D

fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12922 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Re: DUNE 3 is now available!!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:11 am

Pyrotek45 wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 am
Hink wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:46 am
please stop feeding the pirate discussion...all further posts on the subject will be deleted and subject to suspensions.

edit: thank you urs for your explanation :)
Jeez i wont mention the "P" word anymore. I still wanna know whats going to happen to dune 1? Will it be sold in the future?
What do you mean by sold? It is no longer available.
Interestingly, there is not even an upgrade path from v1 to v3.
And Hydra is still available :hihi:

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