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mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:25 pm

AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:15 pm
sprnva wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:04 pm
wow, thats an awful video

Someone needs to hide all his microphones. Forever.

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:26 pm

The turing , and the random sources seams interesting

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:27 pm

fmr wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:23 pm
Whywhy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:18 pm Hi Fmr, a question,
Can pigments sends midi out ?
Honestly, I didn't try, but I don't think so.

Thanks !

DJMaytag · Post by **DJMaytag** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:27 pm

OK, so the mod oscillator thing is pretty cool and actually sounds good. Oscillator cross-mod for West Coast style analog synthesis hasn't sounded very good in anything I've ever tried in software.

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:27 pm

is $149 the customer intro price or is there a better price for existing Arturia software owners?

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:28 pm

No unison mode ?

epiphaneia · Post by **epiphaneia** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:29 pm

Kevin [Arturia] wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:22 pm
jsp1979 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:17 pm Any idea when it will actually be released? In a few days or in a few months?
Hopefully later today .

So the "special offer for V collection owners" is going to be $99?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:33 pm

lnikj wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:22 pm Agreed

Seems like they may have ripped out the algorithms from their other synths and repackaged them alongside a wavetable generator in a fairly standard subtractive architecture with a nice gui. Not seeing anything very innovative from the videos. Maybe the demo (or Fernando !) will prove me wrong.

"SOME" filters were recycled from their emulations, of course (that's why they carry names like SEM. Matrix-12 and Mini). But other filters are completely new, especially the Multimode filter (a completely new and modern filter created specifically for Pigments).

The VA oscillators are entirely new too. And the modulation engine is a monster. We don't have here the traditional matrix modulation, but almost a modular architecture, where we can modulate almost ANYTHING, including modulators themselves. Each source can be used to modulate multiple numbers of destinations and we have no limits, except the CPU. And we have also what Arturia called Side Chain (a modulator for the modulator). This is NOT ANOTHER modulator, it's more a kind of modulator multiplier, since we can also modulate a modulator with another modulator, as I said (AND with another Side Chain). I find that to be the best part of the synth, actually.

And the wavetable has nothing to do with Massive or Serum (saying that is totally unfair). Actually, it's great sounding and has features I didn't see anywhere else, like the modulators I pointed to (FM, PM, PD and wavefolding). And we can perform a kind of granular synthesis with the wavetable engine, as I already wrote (although Arturia says nothing about that - that's my personal research). This is because I observed that Pigments can actually load any sample (the wavetables use the WAV format), although it doesn't play it like a sampler does.

It's probably better to answer specific questions, otherwise, I would be writing a manual here

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 pm

wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:23 pm Oh well, sounds good enough but nothing new here.

God am I jaded.

I really don't think you are. I suspect that it is inevitable that people are going to wake up to the reality that there really is only so far that synthesis can go in terms of "NEVER BEFORE HEARD SOUNDS!!!"

I mean, in all honesty, they may well make these sounds, but how would anyone actually know? When you scroll through presets on pretty much any synth, everything is thrown into the usual suspects of leads, pads, basses etc. etc.... There are millions of these sounds out there with immense amounts of overlap between synths and even within individual synths.

There may well be users whose ears are so fine tuned that they can get these tiny variations that may exist and to them they see the value on buying all the new shinies, but from my perspective, I listen to them as they come out these days and say to myself, "yeh, they may sound really nice, but are they actually doing anything THAT new?" and put away the credit card...just my 2c

themerx · Post by **themerx** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 pm

Bunkster wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:25 pm
m-ac wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:23 pm I was secretly hoping for a hardware polyphonic matrixbrute /wavetable monster
Exactly. Me too. Even a cut down version closer to the excellent MB2S would sell like hot croissants.

Me, too. But its just a simple wavetable synthesizer with a lightshow to blend the customers. Nothing special. Just a lightshow and the standards of a modern synth.

WE WANT POLY MATRIXBRUTE! THAT'S THE POWER OF ARTURIA!

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 pm

https://www.arturia.com/products/analog ... rview#null

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:35 pm

sinemotor wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:28 pm No unison mode ?

YES, there is a Unison mode, with up to eight voices.

sureno · Post by **sureno** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:36 pm

epiphaneia wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:29 pm
Kevin [Arturia] wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:22 pm
jsp1979 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:17 pm Any idea when it will actually be released? In a few days or in a few months?
Hopefully later today .
So the "special offer for V collection owners" is going to be $99?

im touching myself right now

Bunkster · Post by **Bunkster** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:36 pm

m-ac wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:23 pm I was secretly hoping for a hardware polyphonic matrixbrute /wavetable monster

I can see my DSI PEK coming out to play. Its a shame the wave sequencing isn't its strongest point but at least there are DCO's and VCF's and a ton of modulation options to play with. And I don't have to switch the computer on and stare at a screen.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:39 pm

fmr wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:33 pm
lnikj wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:22 pm Agreed

Seems like they may have ripped out the algorithms from their other synths and repackaged them alongside a wavetable generator in a fairly standard subtractive architecture with a nice gui. Not seeing anything very innovative from the videos. Maybe the demo (or Fernando !) will prove me wrong.
"SOME" filters were recycled from their emulations, of course (that's why the carry names like SEM. Matrix-12 and Mini). But other filters are completely new, especially the Multimode filter (a completely new and modern filter created specifically for Pigments).

The VA oscillators are entirely new too. And the modulation engine is a monster. We don't have here the traditional matrix modulation, but almost a modular architecture, where we can modulate almost ANYTHING, including modulators themselves. Each source can be used to modulate multiple numbers of destinations and we have no limits, except the CPU. And we have also what Arturia called Side Chain (a modulator for the modulator). This is not ANOTHER modulator, it's more a kind of modulator multiplier since we can also modulate a modulator with another modulator, as I said (AND with another Side Chain). I find that to be the best part of the synth, actually.

And the wavetable has nothing to do with Massive or Serum (that would be totally unfair. Actually, it's great sounding and has features I didn't see anywhere else, like the modulators I pointed to. And we can perform a kind of granular synthesis with the wavetable engine, as I already wrote (although Arturia says nothing about that - that's my personal research).

It's probably better to answer specific questions, otherwise, I would be writing a manual here

Thanks for the info!

You have convinced me that I should demo it. It sure is pretty to look at

Arturia 11 December - Pigments Synth