There's a thread in the pa fb group where someone pointed out that the policy still seems to be in place and there is no real clarification about what's going to happen... and dirk closed the comments on it.martinjuenke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pmThe „mistake“ has not been fixed as far as I see.cthonophonic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:35 pmThey put a sort of stylized version of Black Box HG-2 in the "Vaporwave Santa" header of all their emails so far. They know what people actually want.
Back on topic, though, I'm still not seeing anything I bought used as available for transfer in my Transfer License page. Has the "mistake" been fixed for anyone else yet?
Meanwhile in the PA facebook group there are more and more posts that express admiration, devotion and unconditional loyality to DIRK. Bizarre...
Plugin Alliance new transfer policy caused concerns and is corrected...
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- KVRer
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- KVRAF
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- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
That issue is becoming stranger every day...jayveekay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:10 pmThere's a thread in the pa fb group where someone pointed out that the policy still seems to be in place and there is no real clarification about what's going to happen... and dirk closed the comments on it.martinjuenke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pmThe „mistake“ has not been fixed as far as I see.cthonophonic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:35 pmThey put a sort of stylized version of Black Box HG-2 in the "Vaporwave Santa" header of all their emails so far. They know what people actually want.
Back on topic, though, I'm still not seeing anything I bought used as available for transfer in my Transfer License page. Has the "mistake" been fixed for anyone else yet?
Meanwhile in the PA facebook group there are more and more posts that express admiration, devotion and unconditional loyality to DIRK. Bizarre...
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- KVRAF
- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
So, that's our answer. We are on our own at this point. Good luck to everyone, I hope what you expect of PA comes to fruition. We are left guessing.
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- KVRAF
- 3182 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Well has anyone sold or transferred their PA plugins after the announcement and do they show as nfr?
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- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
The second hand plugins I have are still NOT transferable.masterhiggins wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:26 pm Well has anyone sold or transferred their PA plugins after the announcement and do they show as nfr?
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- KVRAF
- 35159 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Only 3 of my licenses aren't available to transfer out of a dozen or so second hand plugins. Not that I was gonna transfer them ... just curious.
- KVRist
- 142 posts since 6 May, 2005
thank you, you are right, but what do i do with 6 activations? ... that's something different than owning the plugin twice, right?Havok wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:48 pmCheck the number of activations you have for those plugins, there should be 6 instead of 3.chrisg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:51 pm i bought 2 "bundles" from 2 guys recently, which both included some PA plugins, resulting in having 2 PA plugins twice.
after activation of "all plugins" those two plugins are only ONE EACH in my account.
what's this?
also, now with the new policy, i cannot event trade it with somebody?
also it seems, some can sell "second hand" plugins, some con not. i would be happy if i at least could trade my doublettes
PA should really re-think this whole thing...
- KVRian
- 665 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
The bundled software may not technically be second hand if it's a serial number that somebody got with a soundcard or something. Did you have to go through the usual PA process of paying the transfer fee for these bundles, or did you just enter a registration code and have it added to your account?chrisg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:23 pmthank you, you are right, but what do i do with 6 activations? ... that's something different than owning the plugin twice, right?Havok wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:48 pmCheck the number of activations you have for those plugins, there should be 6 instead of 3.chrisg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:51 pm i bought 2 "bundles" from 2 guys recently, which both included some PA plugins, resulting in having 2 PA plugins twice.
after activation of "all plugins" those two plugins are only ONE EACH in my account.
what's this?
also, now with the new policy, i cannot event trade it with somebody?
also it seems, some can sell "second hand" plugins, some con not. i would be happy if i at least could trade my doublettes
PA should really re-think this whole thing...
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 14 Sep, 2006 from here and beyond
In the meantime you can transfer NFR plugins by contacting support (support@plugin-alliance.com).
Now whether they ever keep their promise and really revert their policy, other than some "contact support for transfer" exceptions, remains to be seen.
Now whether they ever keep their promise and really revert their policy, other than some "contact support for transfer" exceptions, remains to be seen.
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- KVRian
- 1063 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area
Hmmm, weird. Trying to decide whether to jump on that "Vaporwave Santa Santa" item right now...
Like others I bet, I was actually waiting for it to come up, and watching the resale sideshow develop, and now it's landed in this inconclusive sideways place....
It'd be really unbelievable if they actually did that apparent customer-responsiveness move then reversed it. I'm generally pretty forgiving of companies trying to make a profit -- I have to choice to buy or not -- but a maneuver that cynically manipulative would righteously piss off even more people than the original brouhaha. Whatever the current state of things, it seems unlikely they'd go there. I hope.
Weird indeed.
Like others I bet, I was actually waiting for it to come up, and watching the resale sideshow develop, and now it's landed in this inconclusive sideways place....
It'd be really unbelievable if they actually did that apparent customer-responsiveness move then reversed it. I'm generally pretty forgiving of companies trying to make a profit -- I have to choice to buy or not -- but a maneuver that cynically manipulative would righteously piss off even more people than the original brouhaha. Whatever the current state of things, it seems unlikely they'd go there. I hope.
Weird indeed.
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- KVRAF
- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
What do you mean "Vaporwave Santa" item?
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- KVRian
- 1063 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area
It's a goofy joke from earlier on this page. PA's ads this season have had an image at the top that looks a lot like a slightly generic version of the Black Box HG-2. That's the one I've been awaiting for.
- KVRAF
- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Ah ok gottcha! I thought there was some mystery product coming out, buy now use later. Get HG2, its pretty sweet if you are into distortion tools
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- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I was hoping you'd let that slide and chalk it up to semantics. oh well... saturation = distortion
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