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i was born - it all evolved from there...
played clarinet in grade school,failed miserably. tried quitar,too many distractions, too many drugs.
sang in several local bands in my late teens, early twenties...
went to college, failed miserably, too many drugs.
early '70's joined US Navy, failed miserably, too many drugs, but had my first exposure to computers.
survived too many drugs...
got married, had son, got divorced. worked in computers - mainframe and pc's - for the last 30 years.
acquired my first pc late 90's, discovered trackers!
early 2000 discovered Making Waves(still use)
got more and better pc's - discovered traction
which i use all the time(instead of drugs)
have yet to finish a song :roll: but working on it!

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isn't it amazing how many crappy things you have to fail to do in life.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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not if your goal is to fail at doing crappy things ...

slainte :wink: rob

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but im crappy ... so i fail to do that ...

slainte :wink: rob

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well it's a bloody silly goal
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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xoxos wrote:well it's a bloody silly goal
xoxos...tell us a bit about yerself!

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...born in London 1976
...raised in Istanbul
...self teaching in music with no proper technique
...work as a f.c..ng bookkeeper at a crappy bank
...recently married to the dream girl
...live in manchester, nh at the moment but hopefully won't die here
...depressed, with no direction
...always happy at kvr
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tuz wrote:
...recently married to the dream girl

...depressed, with no direction
these two don't fit together very well - then you just don't know how lucky you are ;-)

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jens wrote:
tuz wrote:
...recently married to the dream girl

...depressed, with no direction
these two don't fit together very well - then you just don't know how lucky you are ;-)
yeah I married my dream girl once....no one told she was a nightmare :hihi:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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hink wrote:
jens wrote:
tuz wrote:
...recently married to the dream girl

...depressed, with no direction
these two don't fit together very well - then you just don't know how lucky you are ;-)
yeah I married my dream girl once....no one told she was a nightmare :hihi:
yes, but he wrote 'recently' :hihi:

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mindless wrote:
xoxos wrote:well it's a bloody silly goal
xoxos...tell us a bit about yerself!
not much to tell, and what there is isn't going to do anyone any good.

seriously, the root of my 'musicality' is being born to an civilised (welsh) mother and my father, if you caught that story.

music captured my imagination hehe as a child, witnessing how important it was to people, eventually that awareness developed into a desire to change the mileu, since i am unable to find one that permits my self an habitat where i can live w/ out being pumped up the ass by asshole shitheads of the universe.

but that's a given :p and i reckon i express my awareness thereof frequently..

the technical story isn't any more exciting. during my institutional education, i sang when i was little (moved to u.s. in '80 at age of 10 for your notes) played contrabass w/o enthusiasm and dubbed speech between tape cassettes with little more :p

went to college for architecture, for the same reason i played bass.. when i was young i did what i thought i was supposed to most of the time. i'd taken drafting as an elective and didn't need to think about it to accomplish assignments.

my mother's father managed the lloyd's in rhymney, so they could afford to send me to the local uni. that lasted about 5 minutes, my free ride disappeared, and i've been culturally disaffected ever since.

the first year after flunking college i spent at arcosanti, since the tuition then was $400, and now i'm pretty much guaranteed a home and a job should i need it. i wouldn't bother now.. tuition's doubled at least, and paolo can only live so long.

i played a rack of $20 fx pedals (feeding a 2nd hand hondo strat thru them) w/ band 'bread horse..' we were in the kitchen and performed bibliomancy w/ 'the joy of cooking.' nice band name (well orig. 'birthday bread horse' but is to much..) i was and am a shite instrumentalist.. i can 'play,' but overall lack the physical presence and desire to be an instrumentalist.

'story' there is our only off-arcology gig, i was in the foundry and a shovel fight broke out, someone sliced one of my fingers to the bone that morning, i played the show in the evening. didn't affect my sound..

moved to seattle to battle culture, decided to come back to tucson to use my roots. spent a while in the 'art scene' (tucson's ~ "cultured") started "Fractal Chaos Collective.." eg. an "F.C.C." label that anyone could put on their flyers. had an i.d. card that said "i am elton taft" that got me discount movie tickets once :p

music was like.. and we did some shows.. a dozen non-musicians w/ array of objects, maybe just spinning a frank sinatra record around et c. just before i left the arcology i had enuff to buy a tascam424 (cassette 4-track) so i was popular.

g/f hooked me up with a deal on a used mirage.. "holy shit!" used that, the 4-track, a qx21 sequencer and a boss se-50 for ~6 years.. i 'dropped out' and spent all my time with that setup..

in my late 20s i started getting credit offers.

after a couple of years of accepting every credit offer i could attract, i had my lurvely h/w collection. perhaps it should be understood that communiction vs. survival.. my "you people are stupid and need immediate assistance" instinct totally beat te shit out of my survival instinct.

so had the synths, couple fx boxes, kawai q80 sequencer and a fostex dmt-8 until someone upgraded to cubase and sent me their copy of logic4 for free :D

then everything changed with vst. everybody and their grandmother is making tracks so the strategic importance of having gear was nullified. that's why i got behind se.. democratisation of the contemporary methods of communication. different mileu, same agenda. imo still moving towards the next stage.. a 'diverse forum of voices' instead of the authoritative, centralised idols. cecentralise authority!!! :x disempower the megastructures!

i have a memory of being 18, and observing that memes presented musically seemed huge.. eg. diana ross really feels love. how can real life compete with all the glamour of contrivancy? songs on albums were like special runes when you're a powerless consumer robot.. you have special songs for this, songs for that.. and you keep them all in a special collection that must contain the finest editions.. :p

*yawn*

seriously, you could have guessed all of that and saved yourself a minute. seeing culture change is my only interest. i'm no fun at parties, i'm lousy conversation (but can fake it for a bit if it serves) resentment is the totality of my being, which is why my name means "hymn of destruction" in sanskrit. i'm an embodied universal genius of destruction and i'm here because humanity was too stupid to prevent me coming.

so party on dudes.

pictorial v:
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Last edited by xoxos on Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:33 am, edited 2 times in total.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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xoxos wrote:isn't it amazing how many crappy things you have to fail to do in life.
Losing can teach one as much as winning, sometimes more, it seems. Well, unless you lose at bungie jumping, parachuting, or stuff like that in which case it's "game over" :o

I think I'm more a result of my mistakes than my "correct" (whatever THAT means) choices. :lol: :P :help:

Sorry, the beer is taking effect :love:
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Well, I guess it all started when I came out of mummy's tummy.

I listened to various music all throughought my young childhood years. Some of the music affected me emotionally almost to the point of tears. I found myself emotionally attached to music. From there is evolved, slowly but surely.

In primary school I used guitars, clarinets, recorders, flutes and violins and trumpets and saxophones. After learning chords on the acoustic nylon guitar I could play it almost fluently along with a recorder which I enjoyed playing, but then I got distracted by school homework and other issues, and my guitar skills flew out the window and what I had learned back then is now very hard for me to do, but I'm slowly getting back into the swing. Recorders are cheap instruments and they're great for playing notes if you're into building short tunes.

I kept collections of recorded music from the radio since I liked it so much and could not afford to buy it since I was still in school, I still have those tapes hidden away somewhere, there's about 50 of them, recorded over the years.

Then enter sequencers, and I thought that life was going to get better, but it didn't, I had to wrestle with pesky user interfaces and what not.

Then came Tracktion, and it just blew everything else away, even Cubase SX which failed to grab the slightest interest.

So, now I've got a stack of VSTs that I bought and I'm still in the process of learning to write good convincing tunes. It's hard, but I'm slowly getting there and in the next few years I should have some skills that will keep me in the game for years to come.

Still learning my basic chords back from my guitar playing days, but it's well worth it. I've got everything at my fingertips so that I won't be distracted by looking for quality VSTs in the future.

Ben

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woolyloach wrote: Losing can teach one as much as winning
i guess i'm just not as interested in being at school today :cry:
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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This is one of the most interesting threads lately. Fascinating stuff. Feels strange to get a new picture of a person you once thought was, well, different :) . In general, I thought everybody's younger here, but it doesn't matter, at least I don't feel like a sole old goat in here. That doesn't mean I feel having more than 30 years is old :D . On the contrary, in my country there's a saying: you are old as much as you think you're old... and I don't think I'm old. i feel better than ever, and you should, too. So much experience and knowledge... and still so much to learn :hihi: .

Cheers.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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