oeksound soothe alternative without ilok?

[Ploki]

Thanks but A lot of recommendation here also use Ilok or are mac only. :/

So far I checked only Melda MSpectralDynamics. It's really a cool plugin! I can't believe that it's from 2013 or so! Unfortunately the latency is pretty high with about 180ms. Does Soothe also have such a high latency?

Also I don't understand how it detects resonances compared to Soothe. So far I see that I can only control a threashold. But no real resonance detection or so. Do I miss something?

It's a pretty amazing plugin. It doesn't detect resonances specifcally. Think of it as a multi-band compressor with tons of bands. Each band is very narrow. if there is a resonance around a specific frequency and the theshold is adjusted accordingly, it will compress the band the resonance is in an effectively reduce the level of it.

I think soothe is similar but purpose built for resonance control making it easier to use.

Here's a video I made from a live stream where I compare soothe and MSpectralDynamics. It's a long video, but detailed:

that's a lot of "if's".

both soothe and gullfoss have a single knob that does this.
it's different than effectively a multiband compressor in operation

[DrReacto]

Oeksound soothe is a great tool and worth using iLok to me. It's one of those magical tools that you don't realize what a great job it's doing until you hit bypass and A/B a couple of times. Super easy to setup (one big knob mostly).
Dynamic Spectrum Mapper could be an alternative. I have both and there is some overlap but I use DSM more for shaping or controlling. DSM is more of a manual process but another great tool when you need it.

[Belinski]

Gullfoss and Soothe are different in essence. Soothe is meant to reduce resonance on specific areas, it is not an equalizer, while Gullfoss is balancing frequencies on the whole spectrum like an intelligent EQ, although you can focus on a specific frequency range. SurfEQ is a closer tool I guess. Sooth is very good to reduce bad resonance but it is not an equalizer.
Use Soothe for smoothing your mix removing specific resonance. Use Gullfoss to rebalance your mix if it is not well balanced. It will have zero effect on your mix if it's already balanced.
Gullfoss use AI, you don't have much to tweak, kind of black box. Soothe is fully manual, you have to chase for frequencies and set the amount of reduction. Please note that you can also do the opposite with Soothe, that is to boost frequencies to get a better position in the mix.
DSM is completely different imho : it's a multiband compressor based on many frequency bands, replicating the model loaded by the user, it doesn't improve your track by himself. As a starting point, you load DSM on a reference track. Then you switch DSM in learning mode where DSM is going to listen to the reference track and integrate the frequencies on many bands to build a model of the reference track. Then you apply this model to another track and DSM is going to replicate not only the dynamic of the reference track but also the spectrum balance. If your reference sounds bad, it will just replicate that. It is a very impressive tool, but you have to tweak a lot of parameters to achieve a good result.
Soothe is very very good on nasty synth, electric guitar and voices.
If you are experienced and already apply relevant Eq on your tracks, Gullfoss will not bring much to your mix, except in the situation where you need to go fast, in that case just put Gullfoss on your master bus and the plugin is doing his magic.

[Ploki]

Gullfoss and Soothe are different in essence. Soothe is meant to reduce resonance on specific areas, it is not an equalizer, while Gullfoss is balancing frequencies on the whole spectrum like an intelligent EQ, although you can focus on a specific frequency range. SurfEQ is a closer tool I guess. Sooth is very good to reduce bad resonance but it is not an equalizer.
Use Soothe for smoothing your mix removing specific resonance. Use Gullfoss to rebalance your mix if it is not well balanced. It will have zero effect on your mix if it's already balanced.
Gullfoss use AI, you don't have much to tweak, kind of black box. Soothe is fully manual, you have to chase for frequencies and set the amount of reduction. Please note that you can also do the opposite with Soothe, that is to boost frequencies to get a better position in the mix.

I disagree;
SurfEQ (or new follow EQ in Nectar) is not nearly as fast as responsive as Gullfoss. Soothe is. And if you compare them (soothe and gullfoss) sonically they sound rather similar, but not identical.
I used gullfoss and soothe on the same exact vocal take with some nasty microphone resonances and they produced a nearly identical result. Nectar3 follow EQ didn't.

Also soothe is not fully manual. It's manual-ish. It's like gullfoss with some extra tweaking knobs honestly.

If you are experienced and already apply relevant Eq on your tracks, Gullfoss will not bring much to your mix, except in the situation where you need to go fast, in that case just put Gullfoss on your master bus and the plugin is doing his magic.

I am experienced and applied relevant EQ, but it took me 15-30 minutes to fix the same vocal take the. I had to use multiple dynamic bands and automate them. Gullfoss fixed in 3 seconds, and it sounded more transparent.

[Daimonicon]

Is there something like oeksound soothe but without ilok? Unfortunately soothe is only offered with ilok, so I'm looking for an alternative.

No! Ilok is not required for soothe.

[Ploki]

Is there something like oeksound soothe but without ilok? Unfortunately soothe is only offered with ilok, so I'm looking for an alternative.

No! Ilok is not required for soothe.

Still requires that cancer of software that is "iLok Manager".
I'm not letting that thing near my system

[statue]

Still requires that cancer of software that is "iLok Manager".
I'm not letting that thing near my system

Just curious, why do you think it's "cancer" ?
+1 for Soothe btw.

[Ploki]

Still requires that cancer of software that is "iLok Manager".
I'm not letting that thing near my system

Just curious, why do you think it's "cancer" ?
+1 for Soothe btw.

Can't explain it. some software feels dirty and some doesn't.
iLok feels dirty.
Also all the plugins that install the dreaded iLok manager feel like software that had bloatware added in the yesteryear.

i have an external boot drive for protools only (since i don't use it much) because my main system is iLok-free.

[MogwaiBoy]

You could do worse than try SKnote SoundBrigade or TDR NOVA's dynamic auto-resonance reduction.

The best thing though is to train yourself to hear resonances and fix them yourself by hand with dynamic EQ. It's really rewarding It's usually one or 2 spots per instrument and you work it in when doing initial clean-up (pass fitlers etc).

[andymcbain]

TDR Nova GE would be my suggestion, though the resonance detection isn't done in real time.

[statue]

Can't explain it. some software feels dirty and some doesn't.
iLok feels dirty.
Also all the plugins that install the dreaded iLok manager feel like software that had bloatware added in the yesteryear.

i have an external boot drive for protools only (since i don't use it much) because my main system is iLok-free.

Maybe it's time to man up and get rid of that "feeling" which is not based on any logic?

Sure, I'd also rather have 0 license managers on my computer, but I also love the plugins that require it to work.

[martinjuenke]

I‘d recommend
Sonible EQ2
Newest technology and currently quite cheap here:
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=517207

[Ploki]

Maybe it's time to man up and get rid of that "feeling" which is not based on any logic?

Sure, I'd also rather have 0 license managers on my computer, but I also love the plugins that require it to work.

nah, i found alternatives for ALL license manager plugins so far. Except fxpansion. still have that

[SiliconDeath]

Bump. Any new development/new alternatives come out? I've been reading on GS how the EndeavorFX's UnHarsh might be sort-of Soothe alternative, with lower CPU usage. Though it looks too simple, as you can't adjust which frequencies it should affect?

[Lesha]

Maybe the new Sculptor process in Neutron 3?

UnHarsh seems to require iLok, so it's a no go for me.