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You certainly can do chords, but I wish you would replace the sub oscillator knob with a pull down menu with preset values. That is one thing that really drives me crazy about Hive's GUI. Trying to enter a value like a 5th (7 semi-tones) is an exercise in frustration with a mouse, even when using the shift key. I can't even enter a numerical value on the keyboard. I really don't see any use for having detune values other than integers anyway.Urs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:22 pm Well, Hive has effectively 4 oscillators, so I don't see why it's difficult to do chords...?
Additionally, some of the wavetables have some pure chords, and we can easily make a wavetable which adds lots of chord varieties in various waveforms. Those wavetables might not be tuned to the fundamental, i.e. the oscillator might need to get tuned down until the base note of the wavetable hist the fundamental of the note played.
And also, I'm going to experiment with scale-based quantization on "side level", i.e. a choice of scale in the tune section (probably right on the keyboard) and modulation targets for KeyFollow 1/2 (Osc1/VCF1 <-> Osc2/VCF2), chromatic or diatonic before the quantizer. This would enable interval-based presets and sequences which are always in tune. (Arturia beat me to it in Pigments, but I did have this planned for a long time)
Depending on what host you use, simply click the tune knob once (as if dragging), then type 7 and press enter. Or, just press + until you're there.
I like the idea. I spent some years with, a now big, eurorack setup. I learned alot during this period. One thing I learned is how useful controllable pseudo-randomness can be, for me its important to keep the fun in the creative stage.. Some things I would really like to have in my softsynths (or daw) are things like generation of circadian rhythms, polyrhyhtms in the SEQ/arp area. Maybe even independant lanes of notes/CC's. Another idea is unusual LFOs/loopable ADs.Urs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:43 amThis is why I want to try a playful approach which gamifies (is that a word?) complexity. You simply don't have any control beyond the simplicity of the modules and the logic of your patch. Little changes have big impact and cater for moments of surprise. What I hope for is, swapping meticulous control for instant variety, and thus tediousness for fun.
It would be better if you had a pull down for setting integer values and leaving the knob for finer control.
Or you could keep the knob and have it dial up integer values in its default setting, and when you hit shift, it would go into fine mode.tony10000 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:46 amIt would be better if you had a pull down for setting integer values and leaving the knob for finer control.
I don't want a pull down menu. I often want slightly off tune values.tony10000 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:08 pm You certainly can do chords, but I wish you would replace the sub oscillator knob with a pull down menu with preset values. That is one thing that really drives me crazy about Hive's GUI. Trying to enter a value like a 5th (7 semi-tones) is an exercise in frustration with a mouse, even when using the shift key. I can't even enter a numerical value on the keyboard. I really don't see any use for having detune values other than integers anyway.
It works fine if you want to put your mouse in slow mode. But I like to keep my pointer speed in fast or normal mode to confine mouse movement. In those modes, it over and undershoots constantly. Very annoying! I really don't like mousing around for those kind of tasks. I would rather have a pull down or direct numerical entry. Much easier and functionally more elegant.pdxindy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:25 amI don't want a pull down menu. I often want slightly off tune values.tony10000 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:08 pm You certainly can do chords, but I wish you would replace the sub oscillator knob with a pull down menu with preset values. That is one thing that really drives me crazy about Hive's GUI. Trying to enter a value like a 5th (7 semi-tones) is an exercise in frustration with a mouse, even when using the shift key. I can't even enter a numerical value on the keyboard. I really don't see any use for having detune values other than integers anyway.
Also, I find it no trouble to enter a value of a 5th or 7th... don't use the shift key, just drag with the mouse. It moves in .2 increments. You cannot miss a 5th. Maybe there is something wrong with your mouse?
I took a look at how some of my other synths handle this. Sylenth uses a pulldown menu with integer values, Dune 3 uses coarse and fine knobs (coarse values are integer). Serum has three mouseover controls per oscillator (coarse, semi, fine). And Spire has a nice pulldown with octaves and 15 musical useful intervals under the unison mode.tony10000 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:20 amIt works fine if you want to put your mouse in slow mode. But I like to keep my pointer speed in fast or normal mode to confine mouse movement. In those modes, it over and undershoots constantly. Very annoying! I really don't like mousing around for those kind of tasks. I would rather have a pull down or direct numerical entry. Much easier and functionally more elegant.pdxindy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:25 amI don't want a pull down menu. I often want slightly off tune values.tony10000 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:08 pm You certainly can do chords, but I wish you would replace the sub oscillator knob with a pull down menu with preset values. That is one thing that really drives me crazy about Hive's GUI. Trying to enter a value like a 5th (7 semi-tones) is an exercise in frustration with a mouse, even when using the shift key. I can't even enter a numerical value on the keyboard. I really don't see any use for having detune values other than integers anyway.
Also, I find it no trouble to enter a value of a 5th or 7th... don't use the shift key, just drag with the mouse. It moves in .2 increments. You cannot miss a 5th. Maybe there is something wrong with your mouse?
That's exactly where I come from.cnt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:59 pm I spent some years with, a now big, eurorack setup. I learned alot during this period. One thing I learned is how useful controllable pseudo-randomness can be, for me its important to keep the fun in the creative stage.. Some things I would really like to have in my softsynths (or daw) are things like generation of circadian rhythms, polyrhyhtms in the SEQ/arp area. Maybe even independant lanes of notes/CC's. Another idea is unusual LFOs/loopable ADs.
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