Midi remote control

[o.strandem]

A litle midi issue here..
Here is what I want to do:

I want to control the parameters of an energyxt mixer on one computer from SONAR 3 on another computer. Say for example I've got an energyxt mixer with 16 channels and I want to be able to control volume on all channels from 16 miditracks in SONAR on the other computer.

I have no problem controlling volume on one channel or on all channels, but I can't control them individually. Unless I use 16 different controller numbers, but thats not what I want. SONAR can send controller 7 from 16 midi tracks, but on different channels. Energyxt however does not separate these and hence, all 16 channels are controlled when I move a fader in SONAR. Did that make sense? Anyone got any ideas on how to resolve this?

Thanks

[plastique]

it is surely possible .

i made a quick draft in ext , for which you need these two plugins separately:

http://www.flex.adbe.org/freebies/plugi ... Filter.zip
http://members.cox.net/motorskill23/nF_CC2CC.zip

the principle is as follows:
the incoming midi signal is split into different channels from which each CC7 is translated into a different CC# to control the mixer volumes finally .

screeny:




if you're a registered ext user i can send you the ext file or upload it to my site .

PS: if the receiving channels on the CC2CC plugins would have been visible (see red arrow) there would even have been no need for the midi filter plugins since you could adjust the midi channels on the CC2CC plugin themselves. (maybe jorgen takes note ... )

[o.strandem]

Hi, thanks for replying.. It's not quite what I had in mind. Maybe I was a bit vague when posting my question. It's not that Sonar can't send different controller numbers, if I use 16 different controllers I can control all 16 faders no problem. However, I WANT Sonar to send only controller 7, but was hoping that the fact that it sends on different channels would allow me to still control all 16 faders individually. See? Maybe if the CC map in energyxt had the option to choose channel as well, so that I could say for example, volume on channel 1 is controlled by cc7 messages received on midi channel 1 only and so on.. Any ideas? Is it even poassible? New feature Jorgen??

Thanks again

[plastique]

I WANT Sonar to send only controller 7, but was hoping that the fact that it sends on different channels would allow me to still control all 16 faders individually ...... volume on channel 1 is controlled by cc7 messages received on midi channel 1 only and so on

that's exactly what the above setup does .
if cc7 is received for example on channel 4 it will control mixer channel 4 , on 9 it controls mixer channel 9 etc .

[NicFit]

Like p said...his solution works exactly as you want.

One thing I would change is instead of using the MIDIFilter plugin, you could use the MIDI chs component which is native to XT. You would still need to use the CC2CC plugin.

Here is a preset...I wrapped the mixer control section in an instance of XT to keep things tidy, and this way you can save the "Mixer Control" object as a seperate preset to import into your existing projects easily.


nF

[plastique]

One thing I would change is instead of using the MIDIFilter plugin, you could use the MIDI chs component which is native to XT. You would still need to use the CC2CC plugin.

wow , yes that's brilliant . i always believed the midi chn comp only translated one channel to another , but that it also actually can block channels is really raising its value for me .

to bring this up once more :

PS: if the receiving channels on the CC2CC plugins would have been visible (see red arrow) there would even have been no need for the midi filter plugins since you could adjust the midi channels on the CC2CC plugin themselves.

an option where to also be able to select the receiving channel in the file menu would be sweet .

[NicFit]

One thing I would change is instead of using the MIDIFilter plugin, you could use the MIDI chs component which is native to XT. You would still need to use the CC2CC plugin.

wow , yes that's brilliant . i always believed the midi chn comp only translated one channel to another , but that it also actually can block channels is really raising its value for me .

to bring this up once more :

PS: if the receiving channels on the CC2CC plugins would have been visible (see red arrow) there would even have been no need for the midi filter plugins since you could adjust the midi channels on the CC2CC plugin themselves.

an option where to also be able to select the receiving channel in the file menu would be sweet .

Your right, I didn't catch what you were saying the first time ...I just needed to extend the size of CC2CC to enable access to the Recieve channel setting...now that will eliminate the need for the MIDI chs components.

Here is the new CC2CC(remember to delete the old version)

and Here is the Mixer control preset without the MIDI chs components.


nF

[plastique]

that's the last i expected
it was actually a remark to jorgen , that particular plugins will loose functionality if their designed size is smaller than the ext comp layout , and putting the function into the file menu keeps access to it .
but thanks a lot , be sure that o.strandem now won't be the only one to benefit from this change

[NicFit]

I just realised that the "red arrow" I spend 20 minutes squinting trying to find is cutoff the image in my browser(firefox)....if I click the image and select "view image", I can see the arrow...you were probably wondering how I could have missed it

I think o.strandem's idea for a seperate channel setting for each added audio channel is a good idea. I like to keep my vol at CC7 and pan at CC10 across all channels out of habit. I'd also love to see this feature extended into XTs other components, not only giving them each a global "recieve channel", but each of the components sub-parts a seperate "recieve channel".

In fact a channel setting for each parameter in a plugins CC Map window would allow us to automate more than 128 parameters for a single non-multitimbral plugin.

I'm happy I can do whatever I want with XT, so these features aren't important I would think, lot's of other areas jorgen could work on...


nF

[plastique]

i agree on most of what you said about integrating the RCh , i think it could even be generally "paired" together with CC selection everyplace this choice can be made longterm - thinking in streams - midi and cc are almost always together and the possibility to filter each is of great value .

I'm happy I can do whatever I want with XT, so these features aren't important I would think, lot's of other areas jorgen could work on...

i second this ...
i have the feeling someone will interrupt now and mention the sampler