Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)
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- KVRAF
- 2642 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
What about compatibility?
Can X open the old massive presets or not?
Will they sound the same?
Can X open the old massive presets or not?
Will they sound the same?
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- KVRAF
- 5467 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Is there a way to autgen a post on this thread on every new page that says “no, Massive X will not open Massive presets, the architecture is completely different?”
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Massive X is a completely new synth, with completely new DSP and structure, hence there's no backwards compatibility with Massive presets. Which is also why it installs side by side instead of overwriting Massive.
- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 4 Feb, 2017
We're gonna see this question about compatibility a lot this year. It's just a stupid move by NI to name a completely new synth after a classic one. It might be for marketing reasons but many will be disappointed when they see it has nothing in common with Massive and that it is just another one of the hundreds of synth on the market.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:06 amIs there a way to autgen a post on this thread on every new page that says “no, Massive X will not open Massive presets, the architecture is completely different?”
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 14 Apr, 2009 from Sydney, Australia
I suppose we can just post this link on every page if the discussion hasn't derailed into philosophy:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ive-x/faq/
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ive-x/faq/
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Marketing is about creating expectations, not fulfilling them :v So, basically NI is making a whole new synth and marketing it under "Massive" brand.
Those who are suckers, will be milked.
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- KVRAF
- 3370 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Massive is the most overrated VST of all time. It’s super tinnie and digital sounding. Pretty much only useful for making ambient music for film because of how thin and unremarkable it is.
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
For the sake of perpetuating the derailing of this thread:
If your philosophy leads you to conclude otherwise then it doesn't accurately describe reality.
These are objective facts about both versions.https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths/massive-x/faq/ wrote:MASSIVE X is a VST, AU, AAX instrument, it doesn't run in REAKTOR or KONTAKT.
MASSIVE X is an entirely new instrument, with new features, and a completely new sound engine, so there’s no cross compatibility between MASSIVE X and MASSIVE.
This is also an objective fact despite the subjective reasoning in the second part.https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths/massive-x/faq/ wrote:‘Gorilla’ is the name of one of the oscillator modes – you’ll know why when you hear it.
If your philosophy leads you to conclude otherwise then it doesn't accurately describe reality.
- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:11 am Marketing is about creating expectations, not fulfilling them
NI are masters of marketing and selling spin...
They understand the psychology of the buyer very well...
Stunning GUI's and marketing blurb that is so full of creative license,it would make a real estate agent weep with envy....
The funny thing is,that even though they are the "Future of Sound",I am finding less relevance in their newer products these days...
I guess my musical world is just spinning on a different axis than their one...
"You know I used to love her,but it's all over now"
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- KVRAF
- 35489 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
A FAQ is needed.noiseboyuk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:06 amIs there a way to autgen a post on this thread on every new page that says “no, Massive X will not open Massive presets, the architecture is completely different?”
Not that people really read those either...
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- KVRAF
- 35489 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I'm not the biggest fan of Massive either, but, whole genres are built on sounds from Massive.
I'm sure Massive X will be a different ballpark though. Just for the Monark filter alone. If the rest is in similar quality, i don't have a doubt that it will be a winner.
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Actually I be curious to dig deeper. Which genres do you think were directly influenced by Massive and it's capabilities?
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