any future for MacBooks in music production ?

[jancivil]

f**k windows

[bill45]

Come on over to Windows 2-in-1 land people. It’s glorious here. I used MacBook pros for almost 15 years, called PowerBooks back then, and then went through about 5 of them. Never had problems, liked them a lot. But now with the touch screen windows, I’m into it. I actually prefer how windows works now anyways.

Though I will say that I really miss the three finger drag in Mac. That made things very fast. If anyone knows a windows alternative that would make me happy.

What 2 in one are you using? What audiointerface.

[Cinebient]

Now i´m even worried more to buy ever a new macbook pro from Apple with another "gate" on the way.
Flexgate this time. Not sure if they want people to leave macs to migrate them all into iOS one day or if they really cannot create a proper macbook pro which will last for years.
Ive designed it to death. Time for a new innovator in terms of design rather than such stupid thinner about everything.
But then it might be just planned to break after warranty.
I might try to find a macbook pro 2015 and maybe it is good for another 5 years and see if mac still exist by then.
I still think mac is even less than a side project in some years since iOS is the one and only driving factor for them.
They make their new mac so bad that iPads looking better and better, even if iOS is so crippled.
I hate that i like mac and Logic still so much
Now pay double for half the lifetime of the devices...no thank´s!
So i guess if they go on i would answer the question with no. There is not a bright future with macbooks for any tasks. But this might be still some years.
While i found their macbooks always great, they are now maybe the worst hardware they sell today.
I wish someone could proof me wrong here.

[fmr]

I still think mac is even less than a side project in some years since iOS is the one and only driving factor for them.
They make their new mac so bad that iPads looking better and better, even if iOS is so crippled.
I hate that i like mac and Logic still so much

But now iOS devices are paling too, and it seems from now on it will be a go down only direction. Apple is doomed. They squeezed the cow too much.

[Cinebient]

I still think mac is even less than a side project in some years since iOS is the one and only driving factor for them.
They make their new mac so bad that iPads looking better and better, even if iOS is so crippled.
I hate that i like mac and Logic still so much

But now iOS devices are paling too, and it seems from now on it will be a go down only direction. Apple is doomed. They squeezed the cow too much.

But i still cannot imagine to use windows....damn i hate it so much. Otherwise i had switched years ago. Their iPads are indeed the best products (but also overpriced and sadly too crippled) from my view these days in terms of hardware at least. At the end i do not care what brand i use and beside some of the better Kontakt libraries i indeed could replace everything easy with iOS apps and even if i hate it right now i might have no choice if i do not want to use windows in some years. There are really some outstanding multi-touch music tools for iOS available. I do not see that for windows. I wish iOS developers would migrate to windows and i would switch in a heartbeat to a 2-1 windows device.
Maybe we see Logic for iOS at WWDC 2019 since there was no new major update at NAMM this year. Mac at least does not feel like a future proof thing anymore. I just go there where the developers are for my needs at the end. And if i get the same tools for 1/10 of the price which are also better optimized i do not care about mac anymore.
Some things already works better and faster on iPads than on the latest 6-core crapbook pro.

[chk071]

Well... for a cow to be queezed, there's gotta be a cow willing to be squeezed as well. Apple and Microsoft do what they do, and they're both very successful with it, so, someone has gotta do a good job.

[sqigls]

I'm more than happy with Mavericks and Cubase 6.5

just give me a f**king NERFNDERKLE processor, and leave me the f**k alone.
I have NO desire for any of these new ultra-thin maxi-pads.
Hollow me out a mid-2012, stick a f**king i27 twelvety gigahertz CPU in it and line it with some space-shuttle heat sick trousers and your iOS can LICK-LICK-LICK MY BALLLLLZZZZZ.

wubbalubbafuckindubbuss

[Cinebient]

I'm more than happy with Mavericks and Cubase 6.5

just give me a f**king NERFNDERKLE processor, and leave me the f**k alone.
I have NO desire for any of these new ultra-thin maxi-pads.
Hollow me out a mid-2012, stick a f**king i27 twelvety gigahertz CPU in it and line it with some space-shuttle heat sick trousers and your iOS can LICK-LICK-LICK MY BALLLLLZZZZZ.

wubbalubbafuckindubbuss

That is the problem with companies which produce things for the masses and casual gamers instead for pro niche clients.
I mean i like my macbook pro from 2013 since it still works fine (beside one usb-port is beginning to fail here and there). Now if i hear, see and also people i know experienced some of the issues, all of this horror stories i ask me WTF Apple are you kidding me.
Maybe i go all hardware since it is cheap as plug-ins these days....or just stop it all anyway since music creation is also just another streaming service in the future anyway
And by the time the next iPad Pro can indeed replace my macbook pro (it cannot yet) it costs the same. At least no keyboard fail or flexgate...just bendgate, lol.

[sqigls]

i just checked out my graphic designer friend's new MacBookPro... i didn't want to touch it, because i could see it would break in my hands.

now, THAT is not f**king pro. by ANY standards... and there's the MANDATORY dongle thingy to use ANYTHING, besides a device that uses the most recent USB... which is WHAT? NOTHING. it's a tad f**ked in the head.
AND, the WHOLE LAPTOP is a heat sink... you go running a live set through it, it's gonna COOK!!!!

bizarre, like they replaced the CocaCola guy with Professor Frink, and BAM, here's your product.
It's just too i'm the future with the Tron and the whey and the whoa.
Just no. Put something back in there, for glob's sake.

PRO should be musicians... artists... not uber cool cafe owners streaming media as they ignore their customers from their wanky stainless steel and teak cake cabinet.

[Cinebient]

i just checked out my graphic designer friend's new MacBookPro... i didn't want to touch it, because i could see it would break in my hands.

now, THAT is not f**king pro. by ANY standards... and there's the MANDATORY dongle thingy to use ANYTHING, besides a device that uses the most recent USB... which is WHAT? NOTHING. it's a tad f**ked in the head.
AND, the WHOLE LAPTOP is a heat sink... you go running a live set through it, it's gonna COOK!!!!

bizarre, like they replaced the CocaCola guy with Professor Frink, and BAM, here's your product.
It's just too i'm the future with the Tron and the whey and the whoa.
Just no. Put something back in there, for glob's sake.

PRO should be musicians... artists... not uber cool cafe owners streaming media as they ignore their customers from their wanky stainless steel and teak cake cabinet.

Yes but then you can run pretty impressive set-ups on iPads which are even thinner and have no fans as well. So maybe also the intel chips or the whole X86 is crap.
I do not know. But i agree. I just would like to have a thicker device and they should put everything possible into it...but then it would costs 20k by these days.
The future might be anyway streaming all computing tasks to servers in real-time but we are still a bit away from it. Maybe in 50 years....but then i´m obsolete as well.

[sqigls]

i'm just gonna buy a few more mid 2012 macbook pros

[sqigls]

1 x firewire, 2 x USB 3, Lan, thunderbolt and a card reader... seemed pretty minimal at the time, but it's extravagant compared to 2 USB whatever they are ports... like maybe wait a few years, like when all the devices are tiny flipping USB size, THEN we'll superseed them... gos to show how much agenda versus evolution is going on at Apple.

[mgw38]

I have both Windows and MacOS laptop systems and use both. For audio work I still very much prefer MacOS even though I have to admit that Windows got a lot better over the last couple of years. But there is just nothing that replaces the convenience of CoreAudio. In terms of computing performance the time where you had to have the latest CPU and the best GPU are pretty much over. Performance increases for new generations of chips are more or less incremental now. I'm currently on a 13 inch 2016 MacBook Pro (the first TouchBar model) and I do not see a need to update any time soon.

[Cinebient]

i'm just gonna buy a few more mid 2012 macbook pros

Sadly i already run out of cpu (and RAM) now too often on my 2013 macbook pro. But it is just the entree with 2.0 GHz i7.
I use some really cpu heavy tools which i could not replace with anything i´m aware and i also like to play live some big multi-instruments set-ups within Logic (or Mainstage).
A 6-core with 32GB RAM really sound nice to me but it seems that beast is too much tamed in its thin skin. Maybe i could live with it but not with paying about 4k for a device which has a good chance to break within months or after warranty. So far my 5 years macbook got hit hard sometimes and still works fine. No single key is failing (and i eat a lot while working with it ). I really do not understand this crap keyboard. I thought i might get used to it but i want a bit more travel and a keyboard which just works. But Apple thinks to give us the most crap keyboard ever for a thinner design. I often use my keyboard as midi input as well and i would be scared to use the butterfly keyboard for it.
As much as i like(d) Apple products i think they cannot create quality stuff with these masses anymore....or maybe they do not care about it anyway.

[Cinebient]

I have both Windows and MacOS laptop systems and use both. For audio work I still very much prefer MacOS even though I have to admit that Windows got a lot better over the last couple of years. But there is just nothing that replaces the convenience of CoreAudio. In terms of computing performance the time where you had to have the latest CPU and the best GPU are pretty much over. Performance increases for new generations of chips are more or less incremental now. I'm currently on a 13 inch 2016 MacBook Pro (the first TouchBar model) and I do not see a need to update any time soon.

Did you have any problems yet with the keyboard (or other things)?