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ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:24 am

oooh, Vai in PiL: I love that playing!
Haven't read the thread through, sorry, but has anyone mentioned Eric johnson?

Clapton Crossraods: sentimental favorite

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:29 am

MotuMan wrote:Well,I for one love the the blues(penatonic)scale.
In any form!

Frank Marino w/Mahogany Rush Live - whole album

yeah but do you realize how dynamic a solo can be with some real scales, a nice minor,harmonic and melodic minors, different modes, blues scales...instead of just the same 5 notes.

I use many different tunings which forces me not to think in the patterns of the 4 basic pentatonic positions, but the pattern of scales as a scale and it's actual relation to the chord being played or the key of the piece. Accidentals add character and distraction,but playing all pentatonic has a certain character loss after a while. BTW the blues sale is not pentatonic, there are just major and minor.

I do agree about Mr FM thoug...

cbenci · Post by **cbenci** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:42 am

Steve Vai - Rescue me or bury me - pure genius!

Marty Friedman - Symphony of Destruction - Phrasing like no other.

Brian May - Everything - The tone and feel of a god.

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:05 am

Bluedad ... you got it right

Hole in one ... my vote.

Clapton led the way in Crossroads

meeks · Post by **meeks** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:24 am

uhmmmm...I'd like mention Lifeson as well...for what I don't know...mabey p/g or the new one. Just feel he's always getting left out. ohh...I know: Bytor or La Villa Strangiato!

And a big hats off to Danial Ash for Hot Trip to Heaven! Well played, Dwanial, well played.

Speaking of Bytor, my writers block has enabled me to become a level 42 wizard

(dont all thank me at once), think I'll go play along with Caress of Steel through that Reaktor Instruments V1 Delay thingy I got yesterday

(I know, but its soon to be unavailable in Oct. and plenty of time for V2

).

Sleek Month · Post by **Sleek Month** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:22 am

hink wrote:btw sleek? you realize that most of EVH solos on the early albums were whammy tricks right?

Hink, you ignorant slut...

You hear that unfounded opinion all the time, but it's entirely incorrect. It's mostly just, you know, fingers. He'll end the occasinal solo with ye whammy, but...um...yeah. A lot of those early albums were recorded on a borrowed non-tremelo ibanez destroyer, anyways...(Pictured on "Women and Children First" in a much more cut up state).

I like the "Ice Cream Man solo" for debunking the usual sorts of things...listen to that tapping riff that starts it...

...it's not tapping.

It's just really, realy fast precise playing.

Um...I gotta go.

-S.

dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:57 am

Hello there "Guys"!

Generally I never want show off HOW Fast I'm
how genius and ....

My main Goal is to be Musician and when I play on guitar I dont thing what You Thing!

My playng it's a pretext to find good peoples
to talk with them :)And pooling of experience!

this one who thing that I'm another alienist
No Im not

here for all that say I have no imagination

Here is little Music from my past!

http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/DIMITAR_NALBANTOV/

BTW all music there is composed by my self

only some pianos and synths are performet from anohter Guy
thats all

chears! criticastera!

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:32 am

Sleek Month wrote:
hink wrote:btw sleek? you realize that most of EVH solos on the early albums were whammy tricks right?
Hink, you ignorant slut...

You hear that unfounded opinion all the time, but it's entirely incorrect. It's mostly just, you know, fingers. He'll end the occasinal solo with ye whammy, but...um...yeah. A lot of those early albums were recorded on a borrowed non-tremelo ibanez destroyer, anyways...(Pictured on "Women and Children First" in a much more cut up state).

I like the "Ice Cream Man solo" for debunking the usual sorts of things...listen to that tapping riff that starts it...

...it's not tapping.

It's just really, realy fast precise playing.

Um...I gotta go.

-S.

well I won't argue with you because probably it would be a waste of time...bt listen to I'm the one or Ain't talkin 'bout love....both all whammy tricks...but besides that...uhm Evh used many different tunings (not just a half step low as the myth goes) as well, especially on those songs (see if you can figure out the tuning)...

Gary Moore is much more precise as you put it, but most people never even heard of him. In fact EVH owes everything he has to one man DLR, one of the best frontmen in the business...

If you really wanna hear something cool see if you can get a hold of Brian May and friends, a mini album as they call it EVH and Brian May, with a few others in a hotel room...Eddie is way overrated a guitarist IMHO.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:33 am

oh and most of the first VH album was recorded on a piece of shit fernandez strat copy.

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:41 am

Hi all,
since most of the famous "feel" players have already been mentioned I might as well suggest some not so popular stuff instead .

Robin Trower, anything slow, e.g. "Daydream"
Allman Brothers, the stuff with Betts & Haynes
Gary Moore, "The Stumble" (especially if you know King's and Green's versions too)
Pete Haycock (ex Climax Blues Band), e.g. "Summer Rain"
Doc Holliday's "Lonesome Guitar" (studio version)
Ry Cooder on John Hiatt's "Lipstick Sunset"
And if you don't mind to be shocked, any of Brent Mason's stuff (Nashville session player), try out "I Don't Even Know Your Name" by Alan Jackson
Oh, and for you speed freaks, ever listened to Uli Jon Roth's Electric Sun albums and compare the release dates with Malmsteen's first album ?

Disclaimer :
These suggestions are mostly old stuff that already smells funny.
Listening to them might damage your mental health and/or coolness factor.
Have fun,
susiwong

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:07 am

Jeeziz... I can't wade through 9 pages!

At risk of repeating some stuff that's already been said:

Hink, you're on crack.

You may listen to Eddie, but you don't HEAR Eddie. (lame White Men Can't Jump reference, for the curious) Whammy tricks? Just because the whammy is a part of his repertoire (and not nearly to the extent of Satriani or Vai), doesn't mean it's a 'trick';rather, it is a technique and another potential mode of expression. Vai's phrasing, in particular, gets a lot of mileage out of the whammy, and even though Vai himself may feel guilty about whammy 'abuse', the listener knows that without the whammy, his 'voice' on the guitar wouldn't be the same, and in my opinion it would be lesser.

As much as I love technical players, one of my favourite solos is a bit out-of-tune and busted-ass-sounding, coming on Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend". I can NEVER remember the name of the guitarist that did it.

Pretty hard to beat Hendrix's solo on "All Along The Watchtower", or Clapton on "White Room", either.

Greg

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:27 am

Lunch Money wrote:Jeeziz... I can't wade through 9 pages!

At risk of repeating some stuff that's already been said:

Hink, you're on crack. You may listen to Eddie, but you don't HEAR Eddie. (lame White Men Can't Jump reference, for the curious) Whammy tricks? Just because the whammy is a part of his repertoire (and not nearly to the extent of Satriani or Vai), doesn't mean it's a 'trick';rather, it is a technique and another potential mode of expression. Vai's phrasing, in particular, gets a lot of mileage out of the whammy, and even though Vai himself may feel guilty about whammy 'abuse', the listener knows that without the whammy, his 'voice' on the guitar wouldn't be the same, and in my opinion it would be lesser.

As much as I love technical players, one of my favourite solos is a bit out-of-tune and busted-ass-sounding, coming on Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend". I can NEVER remember the name of the guitarist that did it.

Pretty hard to beat Hendrix's solo on "All Along The Watchtower", or Clapton on "White Room", either.

Greg

I'm not on crack, but all that matters is how well I play...I didn't say vai doesn't use whammy tricks, and I didn't even say it was bad...but you guys go ahead and believe in your super hero eddie...someone one day will explain to me without some tricks he did half a tour with a cast on his hand...but in 1979 whammy tricks like eddie did were not common, neither was tapping....but there are people much better at it then EVH, like for tapping listen to Stanley Jordan, Randy Rhodes...you want better picking listen to chet atkins or or roy clark, Eddie is a good guitar player in mainstream rock....

there are many, many guitarists who are not well known who are much, much better...steve mores, tony macalpine (spelling) Ritchie Blackmore, oh but Eddie is a god, cause he fools everyone...you gotta know the right tuning.

I'll bet not one person here can name SRV's most common tuning. I infact think that Micheal Schenker and Uli Jon Roth are also exceptional, Akiro Nagasaki too...but put on your radios, let the dj's tell what's good....but when you learn the song right and you say "you've gotta be kidding me" you'll think of me.That's the problem with pop radio, they tell you what to like.

It's just like people who think they know Page, again many alternate tunings...it really cracks me up

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:34 am

one other guitarist that plays with soul, not the cali speed race, one that eddie will never touch...Carlos Santana...there's more to playing then just flash (eddie by his own admission is the king of flash) there is soul and playing from the heart...I like eddie and have all the dlr albums....but he's not at the top, there is much better. Just not better known, like Gary Moore...give him a listen.

btw cluck on my link ,no effects but some delay, an sr16 drum machine, xp-10 synth and a sansamp gt2 all recorded with an akai dps12...no tricks

meeks · Post by **meeks** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:34 am

dimitar wrote:Hello there "Guys"!

My main Goal is to be Musician and when I play on guitar I dont thing what You Thing!

HOW THE HELL, What are ya lookin' in my window ?!?!? How'd you know I was playing guitar with my thing !??!? I'm puttin some pants on

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:42 am

what two instruments did eddie play first, second why did he give up the second and who played the clarinet on sweet william?

Best guitar solo