KVR Audio

mrj1nx · Post by **mrj1nx** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:36 pm

The new price is 199. From that you can now calculate PA's price markup % so that their sale prices look better. On 50% off it will be 99 usd.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:37 pm

i know, he just treated me like an asshole and now i got to turn around and kiss his right? what a world.

whannel · Post by **whannel** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:45 pm

Normally $199? Looking forward to those updates and had to use my monthly PA $25 loyalty voucher to cover this update so won't be upgrading other stuff, should maybe have bought Diversion when it was on offer too.

CM subscriptions will maybe increase for the 2 Osc limited FX version.

whannel · Post by **whannel** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Comes with the $45 presets bundle, I'll take it

https://www.jrrshop.com/ds-audio-softwa ... ons-bundle

MikeCallon · Post by **MikeCallon** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:03 pm

The email from DS just hit!

Zero explanation of why our details were passed to PA without our permission (pretty sure this is against GDPR data protection regulations).

I really don't see how an existing license holder can be held to ransom and be forced to pay PA to "cover expenses for allocating storage and bandwidth at Plugin Alliance servers, beta testing and integration work" - why has this expense been passed on to existing owners !!

The worst thing is that PA is essentially 'forcing' us to pay this fee - the code they sent for the 'upgrade' (I use the term very loosely!) is only valid until March 5, 2019.

One very unhappy DS/PA customer

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:06 pm

So what happens if I don't upgrade now for 19$? Why there is a limited time for the upgrade?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm

Igro wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:06 pm So what happens if I don't upgrade now for 19$?

Hell on earth. Plus your cat could be eaten.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm

whannel wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm Comes with the $45 presets bundle, I'll take it https://www.jrrshop.com/ds-audio-softwa ... ons-bundle

Are you saying the PA version comes with this preset bundle included?
edit: Indeed it does seems so...for presets users like me it isn't a bad deal at all then.
thanks
rsp

ecristian · Post by **ecristian** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:11 pm

totally BS..

BeeDog · Post by **BeeDog** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:19 pm

Might as well post the message that DS Audio/Dmitry mailed out just now, see below.

Also, if anyone for some reason wants my Heavy Hitter code, just quote me; the first one to do it will get it.

Hello dear XYZ,

We have some important news to share with you. In the past few months we have been working on migrating DS Audio to Plugin Alliance platform. As you know DS Audio always was a one-man team. Being alone means that DS Audio has limited resources for marketing, download assistance and account management. Together with Plugin Alliance, DS Audio can now provide much better services and concentrate exactly and solely on plugin development. Plugin Alliance certainly will help us a lot to keep on the audio plugin market among all other great companies and competitive products.

Our first step was porting Thorn to Plugin Alliance. It will be exclusively distributed by Plugin Alliance, DS Audio will not be selling and provide download links for Thorn at the website anymore. The downside is that we have to charge for extra fee for the transition to Plugin Alliance platform. We know, you might think it's not fair. It's always a pain to pay for any minor update and there is really no much reasons to do that. Frankly DS Audio as well never thought of any additional charges it could ask for in future. However, we did everything to minimize the fee as much as possible and set it to $19 USD. The fee is needed to cover expenses for allocating storage and bandwidth at Plugin Alliance servers, beta testing and integration work. We hope that the benefits of Plugin Alliance platform could be worth enough for you to upgrade.

As for future plans, DS Audio is intensively working on Diversion 2 now, which will be released at Plugin Alliance this year. After that we start working on Tantra 2. Both Diversion 2 and Tantra 2 will provide much more new features and improvements than their current versions. We hope to port all our existing plugins before 2019 ends. So in 2020 DS Audio products will be exclusively distributed by Plugin Alliance.

We sincerely hope you will understand us, we're now having hard times with the transition, but we believe that we are building future for DS Audio.

Please hit the reply button and let us know what do you think or have any question,
Best wishes,
Dmitry Sches,
DS Audio

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:22 pm

IMO it's a really shitty move to have the customers pay for an internal change of infrastructure that nobody asked for.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:25 pm

Why not just go on using your version of Thorn then? It won't stop working you know.

Dmitry is a really great guy though. He really doesn't deserve any suggestions of bad intentions. If you have an issue, contact him, and take it to him, and i'm sure there'll be a satisfying solution. Really no need for drama.

0degree · Post by **0degree** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:27 pm

And what happens when I don't migrate to PA paying 19$ ? Does it mean I could never upgrade to never versions and need to re-buy the full v2 versions?

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:31 pm

When Unfiltered Audio joined PA there was - afair - no 'fee' for existing users.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:31 pm

0degree wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:27 pm And what happens when I don't migrate to PA paying 19$ ? Does it mean I could never upgrade to never versions and need to re-buy the full v2 versions?

Probably. Again, contacting Dmitry or Plugin Alliance would probably answer such questions. Doubt that anyone here can tell.

Dmitry Sches' Thorn VI