Views on Reaper!
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I have no dog in this hunt, nor am I bothered by REAPER fanaticism especially, but in terms of 'usability' there is an objective difference between having features ready to go and having to understand something on a whole other level in order to cobble it together - requiring more reading is real - yourself since they aren't.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 3 May, 2018
I don't think, I know. Comprehension isn't your thing obviously.jancivil wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:54 pmIf you think your post ["Psuper"] was responsive to points like at all, let alone coherent you're delusional.
But grats on the hand holding of the foul mouth troll, just another one in the myriad of garbage posts to lend no weight to.
Have you tried Vital?
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
obviously, to me anyway, this psuper is a jerk and I have PMd Ben to have my account deleted because I really can't stand being exposed to jerks like this anymore online . That applies across a range of platforms, not just KVR. For me, and I think many others, the net is now so filled with absolute scumbags and trash that it has lost value as a social platform.
(Although I do find twitter useful because blocking someone - such as this arsehole here - is so easy.)
Now I have used Reaper since about 2 weeks after its first release ie about version .4 something, and fanatical Reaperite extremist fanbois have been the bane of Reaper's existence in the same way the the US "star" system destroys careers (think Elvis or Michael Jackson)
Reaper development has been damaged by these fawning idiots. There were so many great interesting people in the early days and they have mostly been driven away by "what you dont know only makes you stronger" types
Having to constantly see drivel from people like psuper or - for god's sake lawrencef just shut the f**k up you don't understand the meaning of subjective - has become more than I can bear.
"There is another world and it is in this one" Sounds a better option to me
(Although I do find twitter useful because blocking someone - such as this arsehole here - is so easy.)
Now I have used Reaper since about 2 weeks after its first release ie about version .4 something, and fanatical Reaperite extremist fanbois have been the bane of Reaper's existence in the same way the the US "star" system destroys careers (think Elvis or Michael Jackson)
Reaper development has been damaged by these fawning idiots. There were so many great interesting people in the early days and they have mostly been driven away by "what you dont know only makes you stronger" types
Having to constantly see drivel from people like psuper or - for god's sake lawrencef just shut the f**k up you don't understand the meaning of subjective - has become more than I can bear.
"There is another world and it is in this one" Sounds a better option to me
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 3 May, 2018
Any reasonable individual reading your last few replies will come the conclusion that account deletion is a good idea for you Woggle. Anyone would agree that someone who in two replies uses the words "f**k, c**ts, fuckwits, Jerks, scumbags, trash, arsehole, idiots, is precisely the type of person you feel devalue a social platform.
Have you tried Vital?
- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 9 Jan, 2015 from NY, NY
Why don't the two of you give it a rest? Neither of you is adding anything to either this thread or the forum in general.
Sweet child in time...
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- KVRAF
- 1526 posts since 23 Feb, 2017
I find it funny how Reaper users pretend that Reaper isn't ugly as all hell (no, I'm not just talking about the "theme"), clunky as anything, terrible with midi, etc. When I used it extensively for half a year I found the user experience to be incredibly negative.
As someone said, you can 'customize' Reaper to act the way you want it to. Code for: make it less s**t by changing some things yourself.
Also the "good for the price" argument doesn't really stand up in this market when you can get Studio One on rent to own, MuLab for 70 euros, Cakewalk for free, which are all infinitely easier to use/ better to look at.
Nothing annoys me more than seeing someone ask for a DAW with specific features not found in Reaper and seeing a bunch of posts saying "have you tried Reaper?" like a flock of parrots.
If you get on with Reaper, good for you. Many others don't.
As someone said, you can 'customize' Reaper to act the way you want it to. Code for: make it less s**t by changing some things yourself.
Also the "good for the price" argument doesn't really stand up in this market when you can get Studio One on rent to own, MuLab for 70 euros, Cakewalk for free, which are all infinitely easier to use/ better to look at.
Nothing annoys me more than seeing someone ask for a DAW with specific features not found in Reaper and seeing a bunch of posts saying "have you tried Reaper?" like a flock of parrots.
If you get on with Reaper, good for you. Many others don't.
Signatures are so early 2000s.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 18 Oct, 2004
you...woggle wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:36 am obviously, to me anyway, this psuper is a jerk and I have PMd Ben to have my account deleted because I really can't stand being exposed to jerks like this anymore online .
you do realize you can just, like...
yanno
...not come here anymore?
It is actually, in fact, within your own control!
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 3 May, 2018
I can post pretty much any reasonable response in these music forums, and get some angry response every single time. Pretty sure it has to do with the fact that after they unreasonably attack me, I reveal them for the angry, neutered, short-sighted posters that they are, just by posting facts and thought-out opinion and not being offensive about it.
Anyone can go back and read these threads and see who the troublemakers are - here or otherwise. Tough shit for them if their own words and actions backfire - engage responsibly.
Have you tried Vital?
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Reaper works well, and has a ton of features. Functionally it’s marvelous. Visually not so much. Operationally? It’s a bear. What it really needs is for a top notch interface designer to get involved.
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- KVRian
- 843 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
Something subtle is that Reaper is an environment. REAPER stands for "Rapid Environment for Audio Production, Engineering, and Recording".
To me, an environment is an extensible and configurable toolset for accomplishing something. It lets you build your own tools to accomplish whatever tasks you need. These types of tools are always highly complex by nature because they allow tons of flexibility. I think that Reaper nails this aspect. It provides the foundation to build whatever workflow you want.
I think the problem is that some people want it to be a pre-configured "digital audio workstation". To me, a workstation is more specific. . . it's having things set up to accomplish a specific task with a specific workflow. Take for example Studio One, which is a great DAW. The tradeoff for the simplicity and pre-defined workflows is that it's nowhere near as configurable as Reaper.
I often see comments that Reaper should be more "newbie friendly", better UI, etc. I think that is kind of like saying that Microsoft Visual Studio should be more like Microsoft Office. It misses the fundamental design of Reaper.
Just my mostly uneducated opinion
To me, an environment is an extensible and configurable toolset for accomplishing something. It lets you build your own tools to accomplish whatever tasks you need. These types of tools are always highly complex by nature because they allow tons of flexibility. I think that Reaper nails this aspect. It provides the foundation to build whatever workflow you want.
I think the problem is that some people want it to be a pre-configured "digital audio workstation". To me, a workstation is more specific. . . it's having things set up to accomplish a specific task with a specific workflow. Take for example Studio One, which is a great DAW. The tradeoff for the simplicity and pre-defined workflows is that it's nowhere near as configurable as Reaper.
I often see comments that Reaper should be more "newbie friendly", better UI, etc. I think that is kind of like saying that Microsoft Visual Studio should be more like Microsoft Office. It misses the fundamental design of Reaper.
Just my mostly uneducated opinion
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Yeah, you're the same type of idiot for whom only agreement amounts to 'comprehension' or intelligence.Psuper wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:19 amI don't think, I know. Comprehension isn't your thing obviously.jancivil wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:54 pmIf you think your post ["Psuper"] was responsive to points like at all, let alone coherent you're delusional.
But grats on the hand holding of the foul mouth troll, just another one in the myriad of garbage posts to lend no weight to.
Witness the failure of self-awareness of the guy who says 'foul mouth troll' but needs insult in lieu of even beginning to defend their supposed point. You didn't have any reasoned response, if you believe that is that thing, you're twisted.
Says nothing, and tends to give the impression you don't know the meaning of the word <objective>. You have no issues, which is subjective and addresses what was said not at all.You start by saying "you have not addressed the usability issue in general" then you say "people point out usability problems, and they can be objectively measured". You go ahead and address supposed "usability issues in general", I already stated I have no issues with usability. We're all waiting...
"In general", well I already said it, you have to go to lengths to make it do things which are provided in the design of a normal host. That's actually on the order of fact, and numerous REAPER users, fans even, acknowledge it.
That is not using reasoning, it's just posturing. And does the opposite of showing superior comprehension, and is stupid, useless argumentation which you evidence no particular knack for. You're good at looking juvenile, congrats.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
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